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23 October 2011 @ 07:23 pm
It's fun to lose and to pretend [Smells Like Teen Spirit: 3x06]  



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[ALL THE STUFF YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU WANTED BUT REALLY, REALLY DID glorious Klaus crack!fic]

BEST. EPISODE. EVER.

Honestly, I don’t know what was the last episode of TVD I enjoyed this much. I sort of had to keep rewinding most scenes while watching because they were so utterly delightful. I’M JUST HAPPY, OKAY; NO ONE SHOULD RAIN ON MY PARADE WITH THINGS LIKE LOGIC, SENSIBILITY, ETC, ETC.

Also, I’m actually, literally worried for this show, because HOW ON EARTH ARE THEY GOING COMPLETE A FULL SEASON WHEN EVERY EPISODE SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD COME BEFORE A MID-SEASON HIATUS? (That is, if not the season finale itself) DD:

 Also, you remember that thing I said about restricting myself to ~200 words?

I lied.

+ Okay, they changed the beginning recap thing? Whoa, that’s major, because usually it stays the same till mid or end season, so obviously fast-paced developments. I APPROVE. And btw, did anyone notice this last episode or during the recap; Stefan’s pupils didn’t dilate at all when Klaus was compelling him to ‘turn it off’. Initially, I thought they did, but now I realize those were Klaus’s eyes, NOT Stefan’s. The last time this happened was with Bill Forbes (I rechecked); make of that what you will. (Okay, actually nobody’s eyes dilate while they’re being compelled. BUT WHAT, THAT’S MY DENIAL AND I’M STICKING TO IT).

+ I LOVED THE PEPPY, PARTY MUSIC THROUHGOUT. Way to get into the spirit of the episode title! (No Nirvana though, I think?)

+ ELENA GILBERT: BAMF EXTRAORDINAIRE. God, I enjoyed her so much this episode. She was everything there is to be and I adored it every step. This is also why I didn’t wax too lyrical about her passivity in the previous episodes, because I knew this was totally coming. AND DID SHE BRING IT OR WHAT? Every scene with her was golden. Also, again with Elena’s fragmented psychological state defined through mirrors. THIS SHOW IS GOOD YOU GUYS. I absolutely loved the part where she’s applying concealer to her neck wounds, because it’s a tiny detail but it’s remarkably poignant. She may technically be weak in comparison to all the supernatural beings around her but she’s damned if she’s going to let that weakness show. Even with Stefan. Especially with Stefan.

+ MORE WITH THE ALARIC/ELENA. Alaric’s ‘talk to the hand’ was glorious :D And especially because he managed to say the right things for once and he obviously believes in her so much. GOD, STOP MAKING ME SHIP THIS, SHOW. I was all prepared to eyeroll when Elena didn’t manage the projecting stake thing at the beginning and I assumed would manage it by the end of the lesson when Ric handed her back the stakes, and then she didn’t. IDK, IT JUST MAKES ME HAPPY WHEN THIS SHOW TURNS OUT BETTER THAN MY EXPECTATIONS. And her totally convinced “that’s weird, it must be jammed or something” was ridiculously adorable. OF COURSE IT IS, ELENA, DON’T YOU LISTEN TO MEAN PEOPLE WHO THINK YOU’RE NOT STRONG ENOUGH. They’re just jealous /pets. And Ric, did you notice you found a reason to get out of bed this morning as well? What, I don’t ship this. Obviously.

+ Also, digression: does nobody in town question that this hot single teacher is randomly living with his just-came-of-age history student? Seriously? In a town like Mystic Falls where there are apparently TOWN WIDE POTLUCKS and everyone seems to know everyone’s family tree dating right back to the stage before the evolution of blood bags humans? Uh, yeah.

+ Okay, I have to say this— I love how the women in this show don’t allow the men in their lives to actively mistreat them? Like, there’s no ‘they didn’t know what they were doing’ or ‘they won’t do it again’. In this show the girls won’t allow it to happen again; Ric’s “Stefan hurt you, you don’t want it to happen again” totally reminded me of Caroline’s “what happened to me today, will never happen to me again” to Tyler in Daddy Issues. And Elena’s response to Stefan on Damon forcing her to drink his blood, “but he did this to me, which means he doesn’t really know what love is”. And pertaining to Damon/Caroline “listen dungeon boy, I’m done being your little slave girl. You seriously hurt me and I’ll be damned if…” (well, he compelled her then, ouch). I know fandom has its views on all of these scenes, but I ADORE the fact that there’s no apologism involved in this respect’ in the show or in the minds of these girls.

+ Also on the topic of girls, I LOVE ALL THE BFFNESS WITH THE BONNIE/CAROLINE/ELENA SCENE. I can never get over how flawless Caroline is; she makes me feel like she’s seventeen and it’s the best thing ever. Her expressions and excitement and smiles at the prospect of senior year, GUH, OKAY, I MADLY LOVE THIS GIRL. Also, it’s so tragic because you know years later she’ll still possibly be a senior somewhere. A hundred and fifty and she’ll still be seventeen.

+ Also, this episode was totally the return of HBIC, Queen Forbes. No more Miss Nice Girl. I love how her expressions for Rebekah were all ‘yeah, you helped turn my boyfriend into hybrid thing’ and now you want my place on the squad? Think again, not-even-worth-a-completely-original-nickname-from-Damon-Barbie-(Number Two). [ALTHOUGH ‘BARBIE!KLAUS’ IS HILARIOUS AND IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO STICK IN FANDOM]. Her reactions to Tyler were perfect, she’s is not taking his bullshit, but she’s also not unnecessarily harsh and willing to give him a chance to prove himself. That’s one of her most defining traits actually; forgiveness. I love how she was totally rude and demanding and open without the slightest fear of how it might affect her ‘relationship’ with him. (This is also paralleled in Damon/Elena re: Elena btw). Again, with no apologism. Caroline is always, always stunning, but I especially enjoy her at these moments.

+ Interesting points raised on the “how do I fix [Tyler]?” question though, considering just two episodes before Caroline’d told her dad that she can’t be “fixed”. So obviously, humanity still has the highest hierarchical position.

+ SPEAKING OF GLORIOUS RETURNS; HOUSEKEEPER!DAMON. OMG. OMG. OMG. HOW MUCH DO I LOVE HIM LIKE THIS?! THIS IS TOTALLY CANON, YOU GUYS. MOAR CRACK!FIC PLZ.

“Hey, those two brunettes on the staircase owe me a Persian rug.”
“Derippify Stefan before he destroys my house”
*rolls bloody carpet*
*picks glass shards with the most pissed-off expression ever*

SERIOUSLY, EVEN GHOST!MASON (OH HAI THERE, SURFER UNCLE MASON. THIS EPISODE, I DON’T EVEN) KNOWS THE BEST WAY TO FUCK WITH DAMON IS TO BREAK THINGS IN HIS HOUSE. Which, super annoyed, he will then clean up, the big bad vampire that he is *nods*

+ Also, Damon must be insanely fond of Caroline to allow her to throw a high school party at his place even for Elena’s birthday, what?

 (If the Salvatore Mansion ever became a paying guest thing, everybody would come for the maid service, js).

+ EVIL!VAMPIRE!TWISTER? COULD YOU BE ANY MORE AWESOMELY CREEPY, STEFAN? How will I ever look at my Twister set again? D:

+ Rebekah, if they ever kill you off or stake you, I WILL CUT A BITCH. BEST NEW CHARACTER EVER. How amazing is she? I love brats, I really, really do. And her incredulous laugh at “my brother actually left me here” She obviously can’t stand to be without him. THE SHOW WANTS ME TO SHIP THIS, YOU GUYS. And how can you be so casual about “guess she’s staying here”, Stefan? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MORE CLEANING UP THERE IS? LIKE, ARE YOU GONNA PAYING DAMON EXTRA OR WHAT? DON’T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE GOODNESS OF THE BOY’S HEART.

+ I haven’t looked at any reactions as yet, but I can already tell there’ll be the reawakening of the ‘Bonnie is so judgy thing’ (love, how Damon’s labels stick). Which, idk, it seems a bit unfair to me. I love that she IS judgmental about this. Because this is not a Super-Powerful-Witch-Trying-To-Save-The-People-She-Loves thing, this is a Teenage-Girl-Whose-Boyfriend-Sees-His-Dead-Exes thing and I’m totally cool with that. She should be allowed to feel this stuff. This is the same kind of jealousy that nobody would think of faulting Elena or Caroline for (mostly. This fandom can fault anything though).

+ Katherine in the beginning with the rat? HILARIOUS. (I actually laughed straight through the first fifteen minutes of this episode, which is also why best. episode. ever). Her reactions to Damon are still A+++++ AND SHE IS NOT DEAD OKAY, LIKE THERE’S NOT EVEN THE SLIGHTEST POSSIBILITY OF IT. What I hope is that this doesn’t mean she’s out of commission for a bit, I DON’T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, ONE EPISODE PER SEASON WITHOUT HER IS ENOUGH AND YOU’VE ALREADY OVERDRAWN ON THAT QUOTA, SHOW. (waltzmatildah, are you freaking out? DON’T FREAK OUT.)

+ Damon wouldn’t tell Elena about what Stefan’s actually doing, obviously. Significant, because we’ve pretty much established that Damon rarely, if ever, really lies to Elena. I made a meta-ish post about it once, but Damon and Stefan? They’re always defending each other. Like, ALWAYS. Especially if it involves Elena. Stefan’ll be the first one to tell Elena that Damon only forced his blood on her because “he loves you” and Damon’ll be the first one to support the “he’s switched it off, he’s not Stefan anymore” pseudo-theory. Which is so dysfunctional and messed up and MY BROTHERSHIP, JUST SAIL FOREVER, OKAY?

+ LOL@the Stefan/Elena running into each other parallel from the Pilot. Man, this show REALLY loves its parallels. More than the Year of the Originals, it’s the Season of the Parallels.

+ Matt/Vicki and Jeremy/Anna was just really interesting. Like, I didn’t get the Vicki-is-evil vibe; yeah, she’s selfish, but then who on this show isn’t (just different ways). And the witches WOULD want Elena dead because she can upset the balance of nature completely, and it’s their job to protect it. I had no reaction to Vicki trying to kill Elena, really. It’s fine, it makes sense. (I love how they totally ‘went there’ with the “I can come back” and then resolved the whole issue in this very episode itself, THIS SHOW OMG). Also, I adored that Matt sent her back, because he so badly wants to not be alone and he misses Vicki terribly, but even he’d do that for the people he loves. And I like it, because in his own way it’s quite a sacrifice, but it’s not going to remembered amongst all the bigger ones that the others have made, which makes it even more touching. Also, if Jeremy’s inability to ‘not think about’ Anna keeps her around longer, I’m all for it :D But still, I liked Bonnie/Matt interaction this episode too. I’m starting to like Bonnie a lot, really. <3

+ Seriously, this is a show about vampires and the first time they use the term “sire” is in the third season? How does this show even live? (Oh, wait, it also sets itself in the Civil War era without once mentioning slavery, so).

Caroline/Stefan

+ (I know, I know, what Caroline/Stefan, right? IT’S MY POST, I’LL SHIP IF I WANT TO) The only little thing I found fairly odd in this episode was Caroline’s non-reaction to Stefan’s return. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY TO BEING EPIC BFFs SHOW? But I adored that one second interaction they had. I actually like REWINDED TEN MILLION TIMES to try and figure out if his smirk and hey/or whatever was for Elena only. But by the end I think I’m almost sure that his eyes slide to Caroline for like a second, AND IT MADE MY STEFAN/CAROLINE HEART JUST MELT. GUH, THESE TWO. WHY AREN’T WE GETTING MORE OF THEM TOGETHER SHOW, JUST SO MUCH WASTED POTENTIAL HERE.

+ Also, it’s so totally ridiculous, but when Elena said that she can’t involve Bonnie because she doesn’t trust Stefan to not hurt her, all I was thinking was OF COURSE CAROLINE IS HERE, BECAUSE STEFAN WOULD NEVER EVER HURT HER.

Rebekah/Damon

+ DAMON IS BASICALLY THE SHOW’S RESIDENT WHORE.

+ I thought this scene was rather awesome; Rebekah sitting by herself, obviously feeling left out and trying to figure out how to eat marshmallows? Aww.

+ SPEAKING OF; Damon/Marshmallow = OTP

+ And I love how obvious his seduction techniques were. Like, oh, Damon. But they were also rather good? Because he seemed totally into her. And it looked like a genuinely sweet moment, if you remove the quasi-seductive vibes (which, ngl, were hot on their own, I COULD SHIP THIS, like I do everyone/everyone else in this show).

+ But mostly I LOVED how Rebekah totally wasn’t fooled at all she has her brother, she totally doesn’t need Damon and his marshmallows. I think it was good continuity with how long she’s lived, even if she HAS been out of action for nine decades. It’s going to take a lot more than that.

Stefan/Elena

+ THERE WAS A TIME WHEN I THOUGHT THEY LACKED CHEMISTRY? WHAT? WHAT? They were so magnificent this episode. I enjoyed every single one of their scenes and shipped them so hard. The head tilt acknowledgment, the defamiliarization, of their relationship the reversal of all romantic tropes ever. EVERYTHING WAS JUST SO AMAZING WITH THESE TWO.

+ The scene at the bleachers, I’M SORRY FOR ALL THE CAPSLOCK UGAIZ BUT THIS EPISODE DEMANDS IT. I loved that little soft moment with “I used to know ever constellation, how did I forget them all?” Elena being (pretend?) drunk and adorably silly and Stefan being the “fun police”, and all the snark? GIVE ME THIS FOREVER. And then he caught her. Of course he did. I love how that totally ties in with ‘Klaus wants him to keep her safe’ and yet it’s also a Stefan loving Elena thing; the ambiguity is so well developed D:

+ Okay, I cannot figure out Stefan at all? Like, I’m not getting this, he ‘turned his humanity off’ feeling. Or maybe I’m projecting, I don’t even know. But then he does these little things and it’s exactly the feeling that I get, that he HAS ‘turned it off’ (whatever that means). And it’s not even shoving Alaric against a locker or throwing random guy on the ground or telling Elena she’s pathetic to still care. That stuff I can still see Stefan doing to deliver an Oscar-winning, believable, performance. But actually holding her arm too tight and hurting her to tell her to come to class? Somehow, I DON’T see Stefan doing that if he’s acting. I don’t know, it’s possibly the smallest thing on the list but that’s the part that made me feel he’s actually flipped the switch.

+ His “you say it like I’m supposed to care”. GOOD META MOMENT THERE SHOW, BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN? DOES HE FEEL? DOESN’T HE? OH MY GOD, TVD WILL BE THE DEATH OF ME. DD:

+ Also, ngl, I was way more annoyed when Alaric cockblocked the Stefan/Elena moment than when he did the Damon/Elena moment because I already know that D/E is going to be developed, but I have no idea where we are on the S/E front. Are they over? Can they possibly ever happen again? SO MANY QUESTIONS.

+ And then when she staked him at the end. FABULOUS.

Damon/Elena

Oh god, I don’t even.

I don’t want to be all flaily and capslocky here, because these two made me feel so damn much.

+ Let me guess, Elena got majorly hated on for “do it for me.” Fine, I understand some of it, but my own viewpoint is that I love how it’s just laid there bare, there are no pretentions, no attempts at coercion, no “please, Damon.” Damon KNOWS he’s being played and he goes along, which is totally fine with me.

+ The Buffy/Xena scene, oh my god. It was insanely hot. Like, they literally sexed each other up just through hands and eyes. ~fans self. And obviously the audience wasn’t the only one affected, Elena literally looked orgasmic. WHICH, WHO CAN BLAME HER. (Also, heh, Damon’s such a sap “the way to a vampire’s heart…” METAPHOR IS VERY METAPHORICAL, YES).

+ Also, I LOVE that Elena’s jealousy came through for the first time with Rebekah and NOT Andie, as most of fandom had wanted. If that had happened, I would’ve been pissed off for all eternity. That’s NOT something you want her to be jealous about. But here, and Stefan’s provocative intervention, just ~perfect.

+ Speaking of perfect; the ending scene, just. I keep saying this over and over and over, but I love how quiet this ship can be. All those moments like “I want you to remember what you felt while he was gone” or “I will never leave you again”, like, I like them well enough but they don’t change anything for me. I just take those as just another good scene and move on. But moments like this? Are the times when I ship these two the hardest. When nobody used the words “forever” or “never” or “always” and they’re still epic. It’s all about the subtext. There was nothing significant said on either side, but the whole scene just made me melt. Elena’s eyebrow raise at “you and your marshmallows” and her quiet “I was faking most of it”. And the way her eyes lit up when he told her, equally quietly, without any inflection, that he was too. I watched it over and over and each time the interplay of expressions and the general softness of the entire scene just hit me just as hard.

+ And I think more than the scenes where Damon holds Elena or looks at her straight and tells her ‘he will always choose her’ or whatever, I love it best when Damon is unable to meet her eyes. The moments when he’s at his most vulnerable and he can’t look at her because he worships her so much and he’s so in love with her, that it’s impossible for him to let her see that. He can snark and be seductive and make Elena want him, but he can’t handle actually being in love with her this insanely. He looked down in the scene in the first episode too, the one in which he gets her the necklace; my other absolutely favorite scene with these two in this season.

 + Also, significant is the growth of that conversation. Elena brings up the topic of Rebekah, phrases her questions in a way as to make her jealousy apparent and he doesn’t push it. It’s NOT important to him to get out of her what she feels for him. He’s not going to play on her jealousy. He’s not going to try and make it seem as if the moment with Rebekah was anything other than what it actually was. He’s not going to pretend it’s something it’s not, even if it puts him at a disadvantage. The only thing he wants to do is make his position clear, Elena has to know how he feels.

They made me all *clasped hands* and *starry eyed* this episode.

+ Can anyone figure out why exactly was Damon’s “before she skewered me” so ridiculously adorable? It makes me 'aww' each time but I don’t know if it’s the delivery or expression or what D:

Basically

It’s not that the episode was sequentially, logically or presentationally brilliant, it wasn’t. There were a whole host of things to be critical about including Elena not including Bonnie in her plan (which, what?) or Caroline’s “so prank night was a bust” (yeah, only two of your classmates died, hon, no biggie), or Bonnie once again being used in a mostly token way, Rebekah’s random attempts to take over Caroline’s life (seriously, what even? Cheerleading is what she decided she wanted to do after having missed almost a century of her life?) So yeah, it had a whole lot of faults, but the point is that none of them mattered to me while I was actually watching. I never felt the need to be critical, never once thought about ‘is Stefan morally responsible for killing those girls’ or should Tyler be given an out like being ‘sired’ by Klaus. I actually felt bad for Stefan the moments when I thought that he wasn’t compelled. All through the D/E sort-of scenes at the bonfire, I was all “oh god, I hope he’s not feeling otherwise he has to watch Elena falling in love with Damon and he can’t do anything about it and he’ll think it’s good because he’ll never again feel like he can be with her even if he can’t stop being in love with her”. D: Which means the show got it absolutely right for me at least; it doesn’t have to answer everything or set any sort of a moral base as long as I BELIEVE in what I’m watching. And this episode, I totally did!

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Ishi-chanishi_chan on October 23rd, 2011 02:26 pm (UTC)
Stefan/Elena
+ THERE WAS A TIME WHEN I THOUGHT THEY LACKED CHEMISTRY? WHAT? WHAT?


IKR!?!?!? In S1 they didn't interest me at all, in S2 I thought they were cute but didn't interest me in the slightest and ever since S3 I SHIP THEM SO HARD!!!

Was I the only one who ships Katherine/Michael? I thought they had some amazing chemistry going on and I refuse to believe he killed her (he's just nibbling on her for a bit).
youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 23rd, 2011 06:01 pm (UTC)
I KNOW!!! The thing is I watched the series till 2x11 in like a week, so none of my opinions changed while watching it; I barely paid any attention to Stefan or his scenes with Elena. In fact I started watching FOR D/E since I only first saw anything of this show through a YouTube D/E video I accidentally came across and thought they were pretty I'm shallow, yes. But now even on rewatching a couple of S1 scenes, Stefan is sort of adorable, and I'm REALLY enjoying S/E right now!

Hahahahaha, OMG, THIS SHOW REALLY MAKES US SHIP EVERYONE/EVERYONE. I could get down with a little nibbling with those two, heh :D
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youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 23rd, 2011 06:08 pm (UTC)
Haha, I'm glad you think so? Considering this is what I'm doing, instead of, y'know, getting a college education. AND CAPS LOCK AND ME IS MY REAL LIFE OTP, NGL.

Also, I really appreciate that you ship both sides of the triangle.

I was pretty biased on the ship angle (specifically towards D/E) when I started watching this show, but now I've just sort of started shipping everyone who enters this morally degenerate bar, heh. I have issues with the D/E representation occasionally, but they have such FANTASTIC scenes a lot of times that I do love seeing them together :D
Arabian: Damon & Elena15arabian on October 23rd, 2011 04:16 pm (UTC)
Okay, they changed the beginning recap thing?

They've actually changed it almost every episode so far this season. I was bummed simply because the premiere one was SO D/E heavy. Ah well.

Re: Stefan's eyes dilating -- Elena's eyes didn't dilate when Damon compelled her to forget his declaration of love, so it's not necessary, I suppose.

+ SPEAKING OF GLORIOUS RETURNS; HOUSEKEEPER!DAMON. OMG. OMG. OMG. HOW MUCH DO I LOVE HIM LIKE THIS?! THIS IS TOTALLY CANON, YOU GUYS

Yes, this.

Re: Bonnie -- I don't fault Bonnie be jealous, I fault it coming so soon after finding out amidst all that is happening, and how she's all fine with working with Matt and his witch stuff, but not Jeremy and his witch stuff. It just doesn't jibe with Bonnie's character. And I say this as an uber-Bonnie fan. It just felt rushed like they were trying to get to Matt/Bonnie and Jeremy/Anna that much sooner so they made Bonnie act a bit OOC to get that set up.

Re: Katherine -- I'm still kinda shocked that ANYONE thinks she's dead dead. Of course she's not.

But by the end I think I’m almost sure that his eyes slide to Caroline

I'll have to watch that again because I was very disappointed myself in no Caroline reaction to Stefan. :(

RE; Stefan/Elena -- last season killed them so dead for me, I'm still at the point where I pretty much can't enjoy one single scene with them. When it's over, I can go back and enjoy certain aspects, but over all? Nope.

Elena got majorly hated on for “do it for me.”

Apparently Damon did because he's lost his balls. Which makes no sense to me because (a) Damon has been this way about Elena from practically day one, and (b) it is ONLY with Elena that he's like this. He's still a rude, cocky, snarky, bad-ass take-no-prisoners with EVERYONE ELSE. It's not ball-lossage, it's love, people! Geez!

I LOVE that Elena’s jealousy came through for the first time with Rebekah and NOT Andie, as most of fandom had wanted.

I didn't want Elena jealous of Andie, I just wanted her jealous, LOL! In retrospect, we did get that bit when Damon first met her, and anything after that, WOULD have been wrong. Of course, my idea of her being jealous always revolved around her thinking it was horrible and wrong what he was doing, and not admitting/hating herself a little because she was a little jealous and she so should NOT have been. (Twisted and psychological and all that stuff!) But, of course, they never even went there with Elena acknowledging Andie. (Although, I know read there was supposed to be a scene where Elena did confront him -- chopping room floor, I suppose.)

Also, significant is the growth of that conversation.

Yeah, for me, it was that they were SO honest with one another. They both made it perfectly clear what they were feeling without it being bald-faced or done so with games.

Elena not including Bonnie in her plan (which, what?)

Bonnie's the only human there. Caroline, Damon, Tyler are all vampires now, less chance of Stefan actually killing them. Alaric is human, but a vampire hunter and an adult. Bonnie's a 17-year old human girl, a witch, true, but still human and still a teenager. Elena's reasoning made perfect sense to me.

yeah, only two of your classmates died, hon, no biggie

This goes with the tribal morality -- yes, two classmates died, but Tyler also "died," Elena almost died, Matt died (and came back). They were all terrorized. It comes down to priorities at this point. It's us or them, and at this point because of the compressed crazy of their lives, the them (their loved ones) are the hierarchy. They have all clearly chosen to subconsciously shut down that part of them that would mourn the death around them or they'd literally go insane.

should Tyler be given an out like being ‘sired’ by Klaus

I don't see how this is an out. It's a plot point that is going to continue to move story. Just because it sorta helps Tyler (one of our "good" guys) with a little forgiveness edge down the road, doesn't make it an out. We're already seeing accountability being handed out.

I guess that while you I loved the episode, unlike you, there was very little logically that I could complain about.

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youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 23rd, 2011 06:37 pm (UTC)
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They've actually changed it almost every episode so far this season.

Man, I totally didn't notice this, you're absolutely right here! I just remember Katherine's "does Elena enjoy having both of you worship at her altar" part.

Re: Stefan's eyes dilating -- Elena's eyes didn't dilate when Damon compelled her to forget his declaration of love, so it's not necessary, I suppose.

Heh, I know, which is why I said “Okay, actually nobody’s eyes dilate while they’re being compelled. BUT WHAT, THAT’S MY DENIAL AND I’M STICKING TO IT.”

How she's all fine with working with Matt and his witch stuff, but not Jeremy and his witch stuff. It just doesn't jibe with Bonnie's character.

But then Matt isn’t her boyfriend here of course. And this is the same character who rejected Caroline because she basically got killed and tried to set Damon on fire when he’d only done what she asked him to. So not exactly the best responses. But I don’t think the jealousy is out of line even now, esp considering she knows that he’s been seeing his dead girlfriends since AGES and didn’t tell her (so obviously he also knew that it signifies more than just seeing dead people). And if she’s seventeen and doesn’t know how to handle it then I’m fine with it really!

Because I was very disappointed myself in no Caroline reaction to Stefan.

I KNOW, RIGHT? When Stefan entered I got all excited to see him and Caroline in the same frame and then it didn’t happen at all DDD: CAROLINE, THIS IS THE SAME GUY WHO HELD YOU IN A BATHROOM AND WASHED THE BLOOD FROM YOUR FACE AND TOLD YOU HE’D NEVER LET ANYTHING HAPPEN TO YOU; MORE REACTION PLZ. But I reallllly hope we get more scenes with these two in the future, just waiting desperately for it.

Apparently Damon did because he's lost his balls.

Haha, lol this fandom. But Damon’s ALWAYS been an intense lover; we already know that he’s willing to do anything when he’s in love, and he IS in love, desperately almost. And I like that he reacts like that. That their relationship boundary is always very clear; she’s not sugar-coating what he’ll get out of it and he’s not asking for more. I think that’s lovely.
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Pied: [tvd] get in the carwheatear on October 23rd, 2011 04:26 pm (UTC)
All your thoughts are A+. I love your enthusiasm. ♥ Also, yes to everything ever you said about HOUSEKEEPER!DAMON; he is my favourite.

DAMON IS BASICALLY THE SHOW’S RESIDENT WHORE.

HAHA, YES. Love it. His role is literally to distract the antagonist with his ~seductive charm~.
youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 23rd, 2011 07:01 pm (UTC)
Hahahaha, I'm so ridiculously into this episode. I think I just enjoyed everyone basically being bitchy to each other and acting like high school kids on crack.

Also, yes to everything ever you said about HOUSEKEEPER!DAMON; he is my favourite.

I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT HOUSEKEEPER!DAMON. You remember when we were discussing this once? With him fixing the clock and everything? I genuinely thought it was a hilarious thing that we'd picked up as a fandom. BUT THIS IS TOTALLY CANON.

His role is literally to distract the antagonist with his ~seductive charm~.

IKR? Elena picks up stakes and takes fighting lessons, Alaric is a certified cockblocker vampire hunter. And Damon's part in the Capture Ripper Stefan! plan is to lick his fingers seductively. MAN, I LOVE THIS SHOW.
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youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 23rd, 2011 07:16 pm (UTC)
I JUST NOTICED THAT, heh. I've actually had Katherine's voice from the recap stuck in my head :D

LOL, housekeeper Damon is the best thing ever.

Hahaha, I know, right? I mean FOUR references in one episode? THIS IS TOTALLY A THING. I can imagine him being all "okay, so now you think you're 'bad' enough to get away with getting BLOOD ALL OVER MY CARPET STEFAN? WHAT IF I REFUSE TO WASH IT, HUH? LET'S SEE HOW YOU BADASS YOU ARE WHEN YOU HAVE TO GET PAST A BLOODSTAINED CARPET EVERYDAY TO GET TO YOUR ROOM."

(And then he'd wash it of course, because, seriously, bloodstains on the Persian rug? Only a prehistoric monster would be able to ignore that).

Oh, I can bet Elena did get hated on; after all it's 'her fault' that Damon's like this now. But really, that's what they're saying? This is why I stay out. Although I do enjoy all these arguments with my popcorn. *nods*
Amyshineyma on October 23rd, 2011 07:12 pm (UTC)
And especially because he managed to say the right things for once and he obviously believes in her so much. GOD, STOP MAKING ME SHIP THIS, SHOW.

This is weird, but I'm actually totally unable to see them as a romantic ship. I actually see it as sort of a surrogate-parent/mentor thing. Probably because I ship Alaric/Jenna so hard. Which is bizarre, because usually I'm all over the older guy/younger girl relationships. BUT RIC ONLY BELONGS WITH JENNA, OKAY? *clings to past relationship*

I know fandom has its views on all of these scenes, but I ADORE the fact that there’s no apologism involved in this respect’ in the show or in the minds of these girls.

YES. I love it when my girls verbally bitch slap the boys for being assholes. And that Damon/Caroline scene you mentioned made me ridiculously happy when I saw it. Without going into major detail and spiraling down a path of Caroline-happy-meta, it just says a lot to me about Caroline's character because she doesn't remember like two-thirds of what Damon did to her and yet she's still pissed off and unforgiving. I love that Caroline had a very low tolerance for bullshit in that respect: she can't tally up everything that happened with Damon, but she knows it was bad so she's done with him.

Also, it’s so tragic because you know years later she’ll still possibly be a senior somewhere.

I KNOW. This scene, I was like, well, Caroline can have other senior years. But this is her first and only LEGITIMATE senior year. The only senior year where she's a teenager, where she's Caroline Forbes, where she's getting ready for graduation with all of the people she grew up with (or at least all the ones who lived this long). It's very bittersweet, but Caroline's determined to be cheerful about it because that's who she is. My bb.

Can you tell I like to talk about Caroline? I just love that girl.

SPEAKING OF GLORIOUS RETURNS; HOUSEKEEPER!DAMON.

Okay, so psychotic-neck-snapping-unapologetic-murderer-Damon is my favorite, but this one is definitely a very close second. HOW AMAZING IS IT. THERE ARE DEAD GIRLS ON HIS STAIRCASE AND HE STEPS OVER THEM LIKE "STEFAN, YOU LITTLE BITCH, PUT A TARP DOWN FIRST!" AND THEN HIS PISSY FACE WHEN MASON BREAKS THE VASE AND HE GOES OVER AND STARTS PICKING IT UP RIGHT AWAY. Okay, I'll stop with the caps. But Housekeeper!Damon is pretty much the best thing ever.

Also, Damon must be insanely fond of Caroline to allow her to throw a high school party at his place even for Elena’s birthday, what?

I hadn't even thought about that!!! *quietly squees*

But by the end I think I’m almost sure that his eyes slide to Caroline

Yes, yes they do. I know because the moment has shown up giffed on my dash on tumblr about a million times. Clearly I follow the right people. I am remaining in hope for the Stefan/Caroline because apparently Julie Plec tweeted that we'd only seen the tip of the iceberg of their friendship? Which to me says there will be awesome scenes in the future. *crosses fingers*

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN I THOUGHT THEY LACKED CHEMISTRY? WHAT? WHAT?

I know, right? It's like HOW BLIND WAS I? CLEARLY THEY ARE PERFECT TOGETHER.

There were a whole host of things to be critical about

The thing I was most critical about was that Caroline's part in the plan was to get the Forbes' old cell ready. Which, correct me if I wrong, but that was where she was TORTURED BY HER FATHER a few episodes ago. I was like, really guys? You couldn't send anyone else to check on the cell? You had to send poor traumatized Caroline?

Okay I'll stop. Why are my responses always so long? I need to institute a word limit or something. Sorry!
youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 24th, 2011 06:45 pm (UTC)
This is weird, but I'm actually totally unable to see them as a romantic ship.

Haha, well, actually I’m not shipping them shipping them either, it’s more like I want everyone in this show to make out with everyone else on this show :D Alaric/Elena in The Hybrid was definitely oddly sexual vibes, but in this episode they were more mentor/student, which is good, heh. OH MAN, I’m ALL for the older guy/younger girl relationship too, I always, always ship that! Incest, student/teacher, the more inappropriate, the better!

I love that Caroline had a very low tolerance for bullshit in that respect: she can't tally up everything that happened with Damon, but she knows it was bad so she's done with him.

Oh, I LOVED that part of Caroline. I absolutely adored the fact that she had to be constantly under compulsion because there is no way she would’ve done anything he asked of her if she wasn’t. That part is hilarious where Damon’s trying to be seductive and “please, for me?” and she’s all “uh, yeah, I don’t think so”. I know fandom thought she was a bitch in the beginning, but this is exactly what makes me love her so hard. She fell for a pretty face, but there’s no way in hell she’s going to let herself be abused.

The only senior year where she's a teenager, where she's Caroline Forbes, where she's getting ready for graduation with all of the people she grew up with

Yeah! And it’s even more tragic because I’m not sure she realizes this exactly; that she’s fully aware of all that vampirism means, that she’ll pay for her awesome new strength through watching people she loves die and never being able to build a real home, grow old. She knows it of course, but I’m not sure she’s realized this yet. Aww D:

Well, I obviously love to talk Caroline as well, YOU’RE AT THE RIGHT PLACE, MISS.

AND THEN HIS PISSY FACE WHEN MASON BREAKS THE VASE AND HE GOES OVER AND STARTS PICKING IT UP RIGHT AWAY.

I KNOW, RIGHT? ALL THE GLORIOUS, GLORIOUS NEAT!FREAK!DAMON MOMENTS. NOT TO MENTION HIS ROLE IN THE PLAN WAS TO LICK HIS FINGERS. LOL, THIS SHOW.

I know because the moment has shown up giffed on my dash on tumblr about a million times. Clearly I follow the right people.

OBVIOUSLY YOU DO. But seriously gifs make everything so much better because you realize the full awesomeness of all the expressions and the one second glances and everything. This is why I LOVE making icons, it just makes all the little, almost unnoticeable moments that much better :D

Apparently Julie Plec tweeted that we'd only seen the tip of the iceberg of their friendship

WAIT, WHAT? WHEN?! OMG, I HOPE THIS IS TRUE DDD: But seriously, I SO want this to happen because the show practically seems to have forgotten that these two were bffs once (she’s totally his new Lexi as well as something else which is distinctively Caroline) and that’s just ridiculously wasted potential D:

MAN, everyone, including Caroline, seem to have totally forgotten she was tortured, in like a second:s I suppose when they’re battling for their lives each day, they now feel like torture’s no big deal. Hahaha.

IF NOTHING ELSE, THEY OBVIOUSLY NEED TO INSTITUTE A SPECIAL WORD-LIMIT FOR ME D:
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youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 24th, 2011 07:18 pm (UTC)
I love your attention to the mirrors and Elena

Heh, I honestly pay a lot of attention to absolutely random things, I’m not even sure why; but I ADORE it when Elena’s in front of a mirror because it’s somehow significant each time (also it’s so much fun to icon!) My favorite is still her full reflection in that mirror when Elijah was there because that’s so obviously the double lens he saw her through that first time; as Katherine, a woman he was (possibly?) in love with once.

. I thought this episode was the most guardian-like and appropriate Alaric’s been with Elena!

HAHAHA, THIS IS TRUE. Seriously, it’s such a change after the extremely sexual vibes in The Hybrid, which made everyone take a step back and think; wait…what? Here, it just seemed like he was her biggest fan. But then he obviously also cockblocks her far too often; make of that what you will ;)

They will be on the victim list the following episode and they know it

LOL THIS SHOW AND ITS RANDOM!VICTIM LIST. Honestly, I saw the starting school scene and I’m all “wait, I thought the human population of this town was like…five? Where did they come from?”

I see Caroline being fabulous whatever she does and not reliving her glory days.

AND MAYBE KATHERINE AND CAROLINE TOGETHER BEING AWESOME. But it’s so tragic because I don’t think she realizes that she CAN live senior year over and over and over and that she’ll have to watch all those she loves grow old, maybe die. Ouch D:

She is not scared little Caroline anymore.

Oh definitely, although I think she HAS been this fabulous since the first season; she’s never going to allow anyone to ACTUALLY abuse her (she’s emotionally abused quite a lot though and doesn’t know how to handle it because she’s genuinely nice and feels bad for the other person), because even with Damon in S1 she was awesome and he had to constantly compel her because she NEVER listened to what he said of her own free will. She wouldn’t even wash dishes even after he asked nicely, haha, I do love this girl :D

don’t know why NeatFreak!Damon is the most adorable thing ever, he just is.

OMG, I KNOW, RIGHT? I LOVE HIM SO SO MUCH WHEN HE’S FREAKING OUT ABOUT BLOOD ON HIS CARPET (like when he tortured Mason and covered his carpet so he wouldn’t get blood on it). I WANT TO MARRY HIM.

Are you sure you don’t support R/KL/D though? ;)

I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT TILL NOW; THIS WOULD BE FABULOUS, RIGHT?

It’s weird but S/E has more chemistry when it’s Ripper!Stefan.

It IS rather strange o.O Although I think now I like all the characters and ships so much that even when I see S/E scenes from S1, I think they’re sort of adorable. Elena sometimes has this really lovely smile around him and I do like that he could make her look that way!

I love scenes where I’m shown something instead of told.

GOD, THIS EXACTLY. I honestly don’t care if I ship a couple hard or not but if I’m constantly TOLD instead of being show, I shall probably not ship them for very long, trufax. And I love that Damon/Elena get so many scenes like this where subtext is so much more than anything that they might have said! *hearts*
x5valex5vale on October 23rd, 2011 09:44 pm (UTC)
Which is so dysfunctional and messed up and MY BROTHERSHIP, JUST SAIL FOREVER, OKAY?
THIS!

Yes Elena and Stefan had chemistry in this episode..and how funny it is that they have when Stefan is not Stefantheperfectboywhowoulddieforher?

Damon and Elena..well I still don't consider myself as a hardcore shipper but those two together are making me so happy. I think I ship Damon with every person who is able to make him like that..so I guess I ship Damon, because I love him like he is when he is in love..and I mean pure love. Not the obsession he had for Kat.

Yeah I love Damon, period.
youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 24th, 2011 07:29 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I really enjoyed Stefan/Elena this episode but I was also a bit DD: because I can't seen them getting together AT ALL after what Stefan has done but I so don't want them to be completely OVER. I think if this show was JUST D/E, it wouldn't be half as much fun as a love triangle.

Haha, Damon/Elena is definitely my original ship, although I kind of ship everyone/everyone (THIS SHOW MAKES IT SO EASY). Damon is actually a fairly intense lover (and it's canon that he's amazing in bed "he's good in the sack inn' he?) and it IS so interesting to watch him in love. Although I do ship Damon/Kat for the sheer sexy, heh.

DAMON SALVATORE (especially when he's being psychotic or freaking out about his house being dirty) FTW <33
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youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 24th, 2011 07:31 pm (UTC)
Hahaha, I know, right? Also, he seems to cockblock her an insane number of times, not that I'm suggesting anything here of course ;)
jane_wanderlustjane_wanderlust on October 24th, 2011 12:39 am (UTC)
Ignoring this entire post until I have seen it!
Have not seen it yet, but so excited to come back and read your thoughts.
youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 24th, 2011 07:32 pm (UTC)
OH MY GOD, SEE IT, IT'S EPIC. Although do you like TVD anymore? I thought you were completely over it!
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waltzmatildah: tvd: katherine colouredwaltzmatildah on October 24th, 2011 02:04 am (UTC)
I must admit, I rocked in the corner of my room for a good half hour before swirlsofblue came with all her common sense and calm and talked me back down!! PHEW! CRISIS AVERTED!

At worst, Queen Kat has been drained (and therefore desiccated. Just like the coconut she channels on a regular basis).

REBEKAH IS THE (SECOND) BEST THING EVER TO HAPPEN TO THIS SHOW. TRUFAX.

NO ONE SHOULD RAIN ON MY PARADE WITH THINGS LIKE LOGIC, SENSIBILITY, ETC, ETC. I really, REALLY, REALLY did love this epsiode like burning (which was a joyous and momentous feeling after weeks of not even LIKING it) BUT THERE WAS SO MUCH THAT CONFUSED ME TO NO END!!!!!!!! Continuity and storytelling and character development that made me SQUINT SO HARD and even THEN not get a clear picture. But, mostly I loved it so... WHATEVER!
youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 24th, 2011 07:39 pm (UTC)
My advice would be STAY AWAY FROM TUMBLR THIS WEEK. That is the worst conspiracy-theorist place if I ever saw one. If you weren't freaking out earlier, you'd totally freak out there D:

KATHERINE PIERCE IS FIERCE, NOTHING CAN KEEP HER DOWN. Although even if they keep her away for a couple episodes, I shall be severely annoyed; never getting over her dangling that mouse over Mikael's face, heh. WHY SO AWESOME, KAT?

Hahaha, Rebekah is almost a blonde Katherine, NO WONDER YOU LIKE HER :D Buy she is utterly fabulous and I'm enjoying her and her #notamused expressions SO MUCH <33

I really, REALLY, REALLY did love this epsiode like burning

OH, I KNOW, I DON'T REMMEBER WHEN I LAST ENJOYED ANYTHING THIS MUCH. I don't even know WHAT it was; maybe just the general peppy, upbeat atmosphere. I am SUCH a Polly Preppy Pants, ngl.

Continuity and storytelling and character development that made me SQUINT SO HARD and even THEN not get a clear picture.

HAHAHA, I AGREE COMPLETELY. It's like this show's creating entirely new characters with the same faces every week and nothing continues on to the next week. But as long as the episodes continue on being like this one, I'M SO DOWN WITH IT.
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: TVD: Damon 3x01badboy_fangirl on October 24th, 2011 02:08 am (UTC)
Damon wouldn’t tell Elena about what Stefan’s actually doing, obviously. Significant, because we’ve pretty much established that Damon rarely, if ever, really lies to Elena. I made a meta-ish post about it once, but Damon and Stefan? They’re always defending each other. Like, ALWAYS. Especially if it involves Elena. Stefan’ll be the first one to tell Elena that Damon only forced his blood on her because “he loves you” and Damon’ll be the first one to support the “he’s switched it off, he’s not Stefan anymore” pseudo-theory. Which is so dysfunctional and messed up and MY BROTHERSHIP, JUST SAIL FOREVER, OKAY?
I hadn't thought about it in those terms, but that makes total sense. And there is no judgement from Damon towards Stefan, other than the big fucking mess he's making. :D

I can totally ship Damon/Rebekah in a let's get it on sort of way because they have no history of her totally emotionally abusing him, and since she's basically Katherine 2.0: Blonde and Fabulous, I understand why I ship it.

All through the D/E sort-of scenes at the bonfire, I was all “oh god, I hope he’s not feeling otherwise he has to watch Elena falling in love with Damon and he can’t do anything about it and he’ll think it’s good because he’ll never again feel like he can be with her even if he can’t stop being in love with her”. D:
The flailing and the loving and the rewatching of the D/E goes without saying for me, but this idea is very intriguing to me. Because yeah; essentially that's what I've always wanted for Stefan to do anyway -- see that Damon and Elena loved each other and bow out for all their sakes; in this way it would be even more tragic, because assuming the show goes on for a few more season, eventually he'll return to not-compelled, feeling Stefan and it will just be...gah. I don't think I can ever wrap my brain around the idea.
youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 24th, 2011 07:56 pm (UTC)
And there is no judgement from Damon towards Stefan, other than the big fucking mess he's making. :D

OH MAN, HOW MUCH DO I LOVE THAT? I SO WANT TO MARRY THIS DAMON. He's all like 'fine Stefan's evil and he's turned it off and he rips people apart from limb to limb, BUT NOW HE'S GETTING BLOOD ON MY CARPET? HE'S TOO FAR GONE. HE CANNOT BE SAVED.'

I can totally ship Damon/Rebekah in a let's get it on sort of way

They could be so hot with all that finger-licking, heh. I loved how she totally saw past his obvious seduction technique though, but if they do actually get it on sometimes, I SHALL NOT COMPLAIN *nods*

I don't think I can ever wrap my brain around the idea.

Oh, god, I know, right? I'm just heartbroken every time I think of it. Because till now I'd pretty much accepted that Stefan and Elena love each other, so the idea that there might be a time when Stefan loves Elena and Elena does NOT love Stefan is SO weird to me D: And especially, right now, if he's just pretending then all of his 'pushing Elena towards Damon' thing is just pretense because he thinks she's much better off with Damon but that doesn't mean it wouldn't hurt him to watch it happen. MAN, WHY CAN'T EVERYONE IN THE WORLD BE HAPPY SOMEHOW D:
eenaangel: D/C-Hurteenaangel on October 24th, 2011 04:48 am (UTC)
SPEAKING OF GLORIOUS RETURNS; HOUSEKEEPER!DAMON. OMG. OMG. OMG. HOW MUCH DO I LOVE HIM LIKE THIS?! THIS IS TOTALLY CANON, YOU GUYS. MOAR CRACK!FIC PLZ.



I totally just flashed back to 2.06 and Bonnie's helping Damon with an unconscious Mason and he puts out that sheet because HE CAN'T HAVE WEREWOLF BLOOD RUINING HIS CARPET!!!



Also, your Caroline thoughts are my own, and if we could have a whole season of Damon being snarky to Caroline while she gives him the bitchface of death-that would be fine with me.
youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 24th, 2011 07:59 pm (UTC)
OH GOD, ME TOO. THAT SCENE IS FABULOUS, STUNNING, ETC. ETC. Damon is such a good housewife along with being a total diva, I ADORE THIS MAN. So when he trashes rooms (3x01) and breaks glasses (2x01), you know he's REALLY angry, heh.

If we could have a whole season of Damon being snarky to Caroline while she gives him the bitchface of death-that would be fine with me.

I could watch that for the next twenty years, not even lying. THERE SHOULD BE A SPIN-OFF OF CAROLINE/SALVATORES A HUNDRED YEARS LATER. *nods*



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Laura: TVD- Stefan- Ripped in halfonetruefriend on October 24th, 2011 06:11 am (UTC)
Great episode. Somehow the show keep upping the ante' every eppy, and like you said, how can this be when it's not even mid-season yet? lol.

Out of curiousity, do you ship Stelena, Delena, or both? It seems you have an appreciation for both, but I always thought you were a Delena shipper.

I'm Stelena and loved them just as you did this eppy. Delena has chemistry too and I think it's obvious the triangle is tightening.

As for Stefan, you're guess is as good as mine! I think he's either really comepelled and his humanity is desperatly trying to claw it's way to the surface (in an effort to fight as Elena told him to), or he is indeed faking. Only time will tell.

EPIC show is EPIC. I just can't wait for next wek!
youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 24th, 2011 08:07 pm (UTC)
I know, right? I'm genuinely like 'how can they possibly keep this up?' In my opinion this season has been fabulous, with the right amount of action and character development :D

Out of curiousity, do you ship Stelena, Delena, or both?

Haha, wow, I'm actually getting asked this question a lot these days, my shipping preferences are all over the place :D Well, D/E was my original ship, it was the reason I started watching the show and I suppose it still is, but I REALLY enjoy S/E scenes (especially now!) I honestly wouldn't mind either or neither (BUT PREFERABLY BOTH) these ships being endgame.

I think he's either really comepelled and his humanity is desperatly trying to claw it's way to the surface (in an effort to fight as Elena told him to), or he is indeed faking.

I KNOW, I'M GENUINELY SO CONFUSED. One moment it seems obvious that he's faking and then BAM, he does something completely contrary and it's just back to square one on the guessing scale. Like the moment he asks Elena why she'd protect him after all he's done to her, and then next moment he's all "do you have any idea how pathetic that makes you?". Just, fabulous juxtapositions!
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goldenusagigoldenusagi on October 24th, 2011 07:18 am (UTC)
NEAT FREAK DAMON WAS OUT IN FULL FORCE.

does nobody in town question that this hot single teacher is randomly living with his just-came-of-age history student?

I KNOW. HE WAS LIVING WITH JAIL BAIT ALL SUMMER.
youcallitwinter: to better counter-act his charm attackyoucallitwinter on October 24th, 2011 08:14 pm (UTC)
I KNOW, RIGHT? I totally thought it was something that fandom has noticed through a couple of scenes, BUT IT'S COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY CANON, WHAT?

HE WAS LIVING WITH JAIL BAIT ALL SUMMER.

THIS TOWN IS THE BEST EVER; people regularly get killed by animals and they have joint funerals (to save on the cost in these tough economic times I suppose?) and teachers randomly live with their students and there are town-wide potlucks and nobody goes to school except for thrice a year-- on the first day and at the decade dances. HOW CAN I GET A PLANE TICKET TO MYSTIC FALLS PLZ?
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