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(Anonymous) on April 1st, 2014 05:50 pm (UTC)
LMAO I'm so glad I stopped watching this show just in time.
Ishi-chanishi_chan on April 1st, 2014 05:54 pm (UTC)
Ugh this was my first attempt of commenting on my phone <___< I was told it did not work

Edited at 2014-04-01 05:54 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - youcallitwinter on April 1st, 2014 06:11 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Kelsey: com.anabkwritten on April 1st, 2014 05:51 pm (UTC)
I'm about a season or two behind and even I'm in a place of:

EXCUSE YOU?


{{squish}}
youcallitwinter: bad moon risingyoucallitwinter on April 1st, 2014 06:13 pm (UTC)
You're lucky, you'll go in knowing what a clusterfuck it is. I went in completely unawares and now I can't even handle my thought-process, I'm so disappointed. WHY, KEL, WHY.
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Ishi-chanishi_chan on April 1st, 2014 05:53 pm (UTC)
LMAO I read abt it this morning and I am so glad I stopped watching this show just in time
youcallitwinter: the ones that come easy.youcallitwinter on April 1st, 2014 06:15 pm (UTC)
LOL, I didn't realize there was a second comment, but it's okay, I'm willing to voice my disappointment again. SUCH A GREAT SHOW AND THIS? And I didn't even ship Barney/Robin at all. This isn't even about that for me. It's about undermining everything every character in this show has stood for for NINE YEARS. Like, wow, that's an achievement.
semi-titled: laura roslin demands an explanationpocochina on April 1st, 2014 06:02 pm (UTC)
I'm so glad I had zero investment in HIMYM. That was, like. Spectacularly awful.
youcallitwinter: all we know is distanceyoucallitwinter on April 1st, 2014 06:16 pm (UTC)
There are no words, Poco. I just. I cannot. Cannot. I have never seen anything this terrible, that it's physically making me ill.
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bangel_4e: delena1bangel_4e on April 1st, 2014 07:40 pm (UTC)
I have no words, seriously. I am a Barney/Robin shipper but that's not even why I'm pissed at this finale. It's how we got here that royally sucked. This was a great show but come on, ignoring years of character development and facts just to end up like it began...except this time didn't make any sense.
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most adorable zombie ever: AHS - Violet - fuck you tooscorpiod1 on April 1st, 2014 08:20 pm (UTC)
I don't even go here or have ever really seen this show but I've seen the rage on my dash and wow that really fucking sucks. I can't imagine how pissed I'd if a season was centered around one ship getting married, only to divorce them in the last few minutes of the series, not even getting into the Ted/Robin and Ted/the mother stuff. ACK.
youcallitwinter: till the end of the worldyoucallitwinter on April 1st, 2014 09:26 pm (UTC)
I KNOW, RIGHT? I'm not even angry as a shipper (like, wow, I can't imagine what the Barney/Robin shippers are feeling right now), but as someone who loved this show and these characters and thought they had some wonderful growth- to watch them regress like this and for a bunch of stuff to happen without any emotional base behind it (LIKE THE MOTHER DYING, THE DIVORCE) seems like a terrible joke at the expense of the audience.
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Noelle: HIMYM - not okspuffy_noelle on April 1st, 2014 08:30 pm (UTC)
I'm honestly not sure how I feel about it. Not outraged though...maybe underwhelmed? I'm curious what you would've rather seen them do with the finale (not being an ahole just honestly curious for your perspective). I was never sold on Barney/Robin...I think it was the whole "love of a good woman changing a man" that didn't sit well with me. I liked Barney for who he was, and it felt realistic where they went with him. Things not working with Robin, a consequence finally catching up with him...

And I guess friends can grow apart when lie gets crazy? Idk that was a little depressing but like I said idk...I am curious though to know what exactly people didn't like about the finale.
youcallitwinter: the way we get by.youcallitwinter on April 1st, 2014 09:02 pm (UTC)
I am so disappointed, I can't actually ever remember having been this disappointed by any television show ever. And honestly, I don't really ship Barney/Robin at all, not since, maybe for a while when they slept together first, but never really after that, so this is definitely not about shipping for me, personally. What I find most galling is that the show bailed on its own central conceit; that they somehow turned the clock back on nine years of character development just to have a cheap GOTCHA pot-shot at the fan base.

I genuinely don't deny the creators their story; but this was the most badly planned, badly executed thing I've ever seen (and apparently it's been in the works since the second season.) It was the creators sticking to a storyline that they once had in mind all that time ago, while the characters literally outgrew it. If they wanted to tell the Ted/Robin story, they COULD have. But an entire season centered around Barney and Robin's wedding ending with them divorced about three minutes later? It's just really poor narrative. Showing all these big moments of Ted moving on only to shaft the mother from some unnamed disease?

There were so many moments when Ted/Robin could have been together and it would have felt organic, but they weren't and it didn't. They expect us to believe that Barney has a Playbook 2 in his 40's (which, as Lily points out, is just sad) and then we're supposed to believe that he's entirely transformed in two minutes of meeting his daughter (not that it can't happen and the scene wasn't great, but that it's not emotionally satisfying.) through a woman just horrifically called Number 31. We're supposed to believe that Robin and Ted who broke up in S2 for the exact same reason Barney and Robin did now (her career) are now in a space to be together, and that Robin, who's never wanted kids will be happy to get two teenaged stepchildren. Or even that Ted, who apparently fell deeply in love with the mother and was with her for ten years, is still madly in love with Robin all these years later even though, canonically, she's been away for a majority of them. And Tracy (/the mother's) character was shafted so badly there are no words. Nine years of growth and we ended where we started.

The narrative doesn't justify the finale at all, all the big, emotional moments that these characters went through to be shoved into an hour of "LOOK WHAT WE CAN DO". I don't even mind the friends drifting apart, because that is v. realistic, but there wasn't enough space for it to feel anything but gimmicky. That it was literally two minutes of distance supposed to denote years and people changing, when apparently they haven't changed at all. If they wanted this to be the story, this IS what the past two seasons (including the 9th) should have been about, and not what it actually was.

SORRY! If you liked it, fair enough, I'm genuinely sorry for unloading all this on you, but I just saw it and I'm so, so mad right now.

This kind of encapsulates my feelings:

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/series-finale-review-how-i-met-your-mother-last-forever-how-they-conned-us-all
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emmahoratios on April 1st, 2014 08:49 pm (UTC)
Can someone tell me what happened?!?! I am SEASONS behind but I wanna know!!! Fandom is having PTSD and I wanna know WHY.
youcallitwinter: the abc of growing up.youcallitwinter on April 1st, 2014 09:10 pm (UTC)
IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW (SPOILER ALTER, OBV):

So.

Season 9 is 22 episodes of the 48 hours before Robin and Barney's wedding. And you have these huge moments of Barney and Robin dysfunctionally trying to make it work and Ted trying to move on and the gang dealing with changing dynamics, and meeting the mother for the first time and seeing snippets of her and Ted's lives together

THEN, IN THE FINALE I.E. ONE EPISODE I.E. 40 MINUTES:

- Barney and Robin divorce after about two minutes of being together (and three seasons of getting there.)

- The gang drifts apart and through the years they really aren't there.

- Barney gets an unnamed (literally, she's called Number 31) woman pregnant and then falls in love with his baby daughter and tells the kind of young women he used to hit on at the bar to dress decently and review their life choices.

- Marshall and Lily exist...I guess? They're lovely, as usual, but in the background.

- Turns out the mother's been dead for 6 years when Ted's telling the story.

- Ted's children tell him that he totally has the hots for aunt Robin and should go for her.

- The return of the blue french horn and Ted standing outside Robin's window.

Yeah. That just happened.
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I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO FEEL. - horatios on April 1st, 2014 09:12 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO FEEL. - youcallitwinter on April 1st, 2014 09:18 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO FEEL. - horatios on April 1st, 2014 09:25 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO FEEL. - youcallitwinter on April 1st, 2014 09:35 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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bellonablack on April 1st, 2014 11:18 pm (UTC)
I am super behind on this, and all. I don't think it's a shipping thing for me. I could see---Ted/Robin but if you were going to do it, I...think you needed to frame that a hell of a lot better and a loooott earlier, perhaps a whole season ago with what they were saying. I guess we are looking at a fridging here? But a really quick one. A very--uh, bizarre one. I'm more mad about the Mother idea than the shipping to be honest, that really throws me.
youcallitwinter: fast times at ridgemont high.youcallitwinter on April 1st, 2014 11:29 pm (UTC)
S A M E. I agree with everything you said. This isn't a shipping thing for me at all either, since I didn't particularly ship anything except Barney/Lily, which I always knew was never going to happen anyway, and it didn't impede my enjoyment of the show one bit. I think I feel so super disappointed in this show right now, because it's one that I really asked nothing of. In lots of other shows, I have my ships and investments, and my interest in the show is sometimes contingent on those, but here, I was genuinely willing to go along with whatever they gave us and enjoy each character and their arc without demanding anything of it. So, for them to bail on their own narrative, their own conceit, and short-end me on what THEY set up, what I was just going along with because that's what they gave me, actually makes me feel personally affronted.
jesterlady: ATScordyangrynoseskinjesterlady on April 2nd, 2014 01:45 am (UTC)
I cannot agree more.

Now I'm a Barney/Robin shipper always have been, but I feel like if I was a Ted/Robin shipper I'd be just as upset. This was the worst way to put two people together in the history of everything.

I always felt the writers had a tiny tendency to ignore character growth and suddenly make people do OOC things, but...this is like the biggest OOC/narrative/show/logic I've ever seen, for everyone. Every character. What the hell kind of sandwiches were they smoking?
youcallitwinter: some say the world will.youcallitwinter on April 2nd, 2014 09:33 pm (UTC)
I'd DEFINITELY be upset if I were a Ted/Robin shipper, that was the most random, unjustified, arbitrary way to get them together, that negated nine years of development of not only their individual characters but also their relationship with each other.

I thought these writers were fantastic in some aspects, even if they used the bait-and-switch too often; like the episode where Robin finds out she's infertile and spends the episode telling her story to her imaginary kids that she never wanted anyway, but had to let go of the idea of entirely. That was beautiful, even while using the same device.

But this undermined so much more than just the shipping aspect, it undermines some of the fundamentals of the show itself and makes me believe I gave too much credit to the writers when they didn't deserve it at all.
ever_neutral: [vm] logan + veronica --> historyever_neutral on April 2nd, 2014 06:27 am (UTC)
The only good thing about that finale is everyone's united simmering rage.

God bless us all.

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youcallitwinter: there is such a lot of world to see.youcallitwinter on April 2nd, 2014 09:34 pm (UTC)
It is a glorious thing to behold tbh, the internet united in its rage. But seriously, I was so devastated by everything. I ASKED NOTHING OF YOU, SHOW.
Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave)rashaka on April 3rd, 2014 08:40 pm (UTC)
It is SO HORRIFIC I AM STILL REELING
I didn't think anything would shake me from my anger at char death on Teen Wolf last week, but then this happened.

This is literally the worst thing I've seen happen on a tv show since Neon Genesis Evangelion. It's worse than BSG, worse than Seinfeld. I can't even process how shworunners managed to not just give a dud of a finale...but to retroactively taint everything about the series that i loved from day one.

my recap/reaction: http://popinsomniacs.com/2014/04/02/how-i-met-your-mother-finale-recap-and-the-best-social-media-reactions/

Like you I was unspoiled, and horrified. So my recap also includes my favorite reactions from twitter and tumblr.


Voters at E! online ranked it the 3rd worst finale of all time, which I agree with, (but I have to admit that their poll seems poorly constructed):
http://www.eonline.com/photos/10012/the-best-and-worst-tv-finales-of-all-time

Actually I have to hand it to E! in general because they’ve got articles by Kristin Dos Santos with titles like “How to Hate the How I Met Your Mother and Lost Finales (a little) Less”:

http://www.eonline.com/news/527052/read-this-and-you-may-hate-the-how-i-met-your-mother-and-lost-finales-a-little-less

“Dear anyone who watched all nine seasons and 200+ episodes of the CBS hit comedy, we would like to send our condolences to you during this very difficult time. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your loved ones. We know you have suffered a great loss, and we grieve with you. You will never get those hours of your life back.

Here’s the thing about How I Met Your Mother’s ending: It was specifically designed in a way that people who watched every episode would haaaaaaaaaaate the ever-loving crap out of it.

Because they were compelled to care far too deeply about major plot points that ultimately didn’t matter, and about couples who ultimately did not end up together. They had the rug pulled out from under them in the last five minutes with a gut-wrenching bait and switch. No one likes to be made a fool. ”
Rashka the Demon (wolf in the cave)rashaka on April 3rd, 2014 08:53 pm (UTC)
I just posted a reply with some links, but it was marked as spam. :/

Anyway I feel your pain re: the show.

One of the things I haven't seen many people talk about, but stood out to me, is the fallacy in thinking that Robin would be ready and available for Ted the moment he decides he wants her in the future.

If Robin is in her late 40s or early 50s, she could be in her prime as a famous newscaster: old enough and experienced enough to be taken seriously and get the better jobs, but still beautiful enough to be attractive on television. So the idea that she wouldn't still be travelling and busy seems laughable. If anything her time from 40-55 would be her biggest career years.

Then take into account the fact that Robin was more successful in relationships and dating than any of the characters. She dated heaps of guys, and could basically get some whenever she wanted. it came easily to her, so when she was single it was because she was busy or felt like being alone. But aside from Ted and Barney she had other relationships...there was the shrink in season 7, and Don the other newscaster. She was ready to give up a career move for Don!

So, I don't believe that if Barney and Robin broke up, Robin would pine for Ted so much that it costs her friendships. I'm more like 100% certain that within 3 years of the divorce she would be married again, to someone else. Probably a network producer or a politician or a famous lawyer. Some high-powered person that reflects her lifestyle and her choice in men over the course of the show. Robin wouldn't wait years for Ted's attention. When he shows up with his French horn, she'd be like "Oh, Ted, have you met Pierre? He's my French husband. He owns a controlling share of the Mets, and takes me moose hunting in Canada in the summer."

Robin only wanted Ted when he was unavailable to her. If he was out of sight with his wife all the time and her with her career, I don't think she'd be pining for him. I really just don't/
woobloo: barney/robinwoobloo on April 22nd, 2014 07:35 am (UTC)
SO HI, A MONTH LATER, I FIND THIS POST, AND IT TURNS OUT I STILL HAVE A LOT OF ACTUAL RAGE. WHOOPS.

OH. MY. GOD. WHAT EVEN WAS THAT FINALE. I could go on and on (and have) about how I discovered this show at a bad time in my life and how it was (oops) kind of my first fandom (at 25. 2 years ago. because apparently, my interactions with pop culture follow this trend always.) ANYWAY I KIND OF HAD AN EMOTIONAL INVESTMENT IN IT WHICH??? LIKE??? IT FUCKING INVITED LIKE THE ENTIRE PREMISE OF THE SHOW WAS THAT IT WAS A COMEDY ROOTED IN THE EMOTIONAL EXPLORATION OF RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN A FEW CHARACTERS AND THEN--- AND THEN----

The thing is, I've loved a few other finished sitcoms in my time (The Office, Friends, 30 Rock) and they ALL had that element of mostly-funny with characters-and-their-relationships-and-their-trials at the core of it, and they all gave big, sappy, happy and maybe a little too over-the-top but EARNED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT A FINALE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A LOVE LETTER TO THE CHARACTERS AND TO THE PEOPLE THAT LOVED THEM AND???? ESPECIALLY A SITCOM????? A NON-DRAMATIC SHOW????

I was planning to watch it with my friend (lol, I'd only recently gotten her to watch the show- IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD, I said *laughs bitterly* sorry, friend) but I got caught up in some work stuff, and when I got home, the entire Internet was on fire, and she was able to spoil it for me. So... I never actually had to wash my eyeballs with acid, but close fucking enough.

It was such a slap in the face. "Yes, we've made you love this show for nine years, gotten you on board with every character's development and individual pains and tribulations, but LOL JK"

They said it was ~subversive and ~edgy but seriously, what was subversive and edgy about the show in the first place was that the Great Love Story introduced actually wasn't THE Great Love Story, that life isn't like that. At the same time, people were watching the show for a fucking reason (read: show title, wow) and they introduced her character to us for an entire season JUST TO KEEP US WATCHING, teasing the payout that we were sure would come.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Honestly- yeah. What are words? I also adored Barney and Robin to bits, and overidentify with Robin to an extent, so getting implicitly told that because a woman prioritizes her career she's going to drive everyone she loves away and she's only happy when she accepts the overtures of a dude who she's said time and again she doesn't love and does the whole Suburbia thing with Kids (BECAUSE WHO CARES THAT SHE DOESN'T WANT THEM?????).

Actually, don't even get me started (....yeah, I got myself started) on the treatment of women in the finale. Barney and Ted used women as baby incubators? Barney's baby incubator never had a name? Ted's baby incubator died of a nameless illness? Robin gets isolated from everyone she loves because she dares to be ambitious? Lily, conversely, gets NO career success story because she is a wife and mother? (let's not forget about HER ENTIRE ARC where she questions even being a mother and wife and prioritizes her artwork and just..... *seethes*)

God, I'm so sorry, I claim the flu as an excuse for this incoherent mess. Except really it's only an excuse for the incoherence. The mess itself is my anger which will never subside. BECAUSE. WHAT EVEN.
littlemissnovel ♥littlemissnovel on April 28th, 2015 04:50 am (UTC)
Perfect response to how HIMYM ending. I think the alternative ending for the show is much better than the actual ending.