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24 November 2011 @ 02:16 am
I don't even know anymore /headdesk  



Fandom secrets: source

You remember that thing I said about the hiatus? AFTER THIS POST, I PROMISE.

So, in the last two days, I've developed this sudden inexplicable, horrifically strong need for Stefan/Caroline. And I don't even care how; platonically, romantically, sexually, in bunny hunting escapades, whatever. I just want them together. I want all the fic and videos and gifs and moments and ugh,  I think it's exam pressure talking or something because I've always liked them a lot, of course (because how can anyone not? D:) but as of right now, I'm so intensely, obsessively into them.

But also, the progress of their relationship is just so insanely stunning; in the beginning she was the girl he completely refused "it's never going to happen", which paved the way for her getting hurt and her 'relationship' with Damon. That is literally the kind of girl she was, the one who always got rejected even though "[she] tr[ies] so hard". And this particular blow-off was through no particular fault of hers; Stefan barely noticed her, because he was already into Elena (he'd been stalking her since a year, heh). It's not that Elena was 'better' or prettier or nicer or anything, but just that she was the one Stefan wanted to know because of her resemblance to Katherine. But to Caroline, it had to seem like this really hot guy entered school and just went for her best friend immediately, without so much as looking at her. And in the beginning, Caroline is annoying, it's not just token. She actually says the wrong things, she's much too bitchy, much too insensitive, much too into boys and much too insecure. Of course, these are the exact things that make her my favorite character, because she's just so tragically a teenage girl. 

If you strongly support Elena (which you're clearly supposed to do since she's the protagonist), there is a strong chance you'll dislike Caroline initially. And this is also because both; the show, as well as all the characters (Bonnie, Elena, Matt, Stefan), are explicitly judging her, which tends to color the audience's views. Her tragedy isn't like that of Elena's, the kind you can sympathize with easily, even if you've never experienced anything of the sort personally; the girl who lost her parents and then finds out she's dating a vampire, and is possibly the doppelganger substitute of the woman who turned both him and his brother, and feels responsible for the deaths around her. Caroline is so hard to like because she's the one whom everyone can most easily relate to and just wouldn't want to. She's that girl. The one that everyone wants to pretend they never were.

She's jealous of her best friend. She's the third wheel in the trio. She's the one people hide things from because they think she's too flighty and can't be trusted to react the right way, or maybe trusted, period. She's the one on all the organization committees, the one who does all the social work, and for not-always-altruistic purposes (like some of it has to be for the Miss Mystic Falls title). She's the girl who tries too hard for the boys. She's all those things which nobody wants to admit about themselves. She gets all the petty, insecure, insensitive moments; like being more concerned that Matt seeks comfort from Elena instead of her when they find out about Vicki's death. Which occasionally makes you want to say "god Caroline, that is more important, okay?" And that is kind of the problem; everything is always more important when you're dealing with witches and vampires and hybrids and what not, so all of the very real issues that everybody of that age faces sort of get relegated to the background.

Like, in There Goes The Neighborhood, when Matt is fangirling over Stefan's carCaroline says something about how she doesn't like sports cars because they're "too hard to make out in", which just makes you cringe for her because she's so obviously trying too hard. But all she's really trying is to be seductive and grown-up and to draw the attention back to herself, since she's had a terrible evening where her best friend and boyfriend (and each others' exes, not to mention) flirted with each other and excluded her entirely. She just wants to be a part of the conversation, to remind Matt that she's there (and also hitting the sexual vein because that's kind of the only way she can think of to divert a guy's attention). And of course Matt counters with "I don't know, it wasn't that bad" (and then proceeds to apologize to Stefan, which is why Matt will forever be the actual worst). And in that moment, even as Elena tells her that she's 'overreacting' and Matt doesn't feel the need to apologize, Stefan's the only one who gets it. The one who tries to do something about it, because Stefan likes to fix things and mediate. That's what he's best at. 

It's not even like Stefan's been exceptionally good to Caroline, "whatever her flaws are, when push comes to shove, you're going to want that girl on your side" is a terrible way to say why you're friends with someone. It just reiterates the idea of Caroline being exceptionally flawed, which she isn't. Her only real flaw is that she's very young and cares ridiculously much about things that just aren't important to people around her, constantly facing life-and-death battles. And yet, Stefan's possibly the only character who doesn't make Caroline feel like she's replacing someone for him (even though he overtly says she reminds him of Lexi). Which she does with Elena and Bonnie, since it's more of Elena-and-Bonnie and Caroline (or at least, it used to be, now it's pretty even, I'd say). She so happy with Stefan for "always looking out for me" (which, oh Caroline /pets) and that's all she really needs. Somebody to listen and not constantly be told that there are more important things than her and her silly life and her stupid issues. He's the one she thinks of calling first when she's in trouble, or when she needs to talk, and she just wants a little of his attention because she's always had to work so hard at making friends, and in relationships, that being with someone who promises (and much too soon as it is) that he'll 'never let anything happen to her' and accepts her completely when she's at her worst is just not something she's ever had before. She's exactly the same with him as she is with everyone else; she isn't trying to be different or nicer or less of a brat, and Stefan accepts it in a way that practically no one else in her life does. Which is why they should just be bffs forever.

I WANT TO SAY SO MUCH MORE. But I shall exercise some restraint. And I need to stop watching YouTube videos like it's my job, which is what brought about this insane obsession in the first place D: And maybe now I can stop thinking about it, catharsis, if you will.

I JUST WANT ALL THE SCENES. Paul apparently recently said he has scenes with Candice, and just, yes.

Always looking out for me.
Yeah, well, you don't exactly make it very easy on me.
Then why do you do it?
I don't know.


[This is not even them but they're still so ridiculously adorable]





Also, I am MASSIVELY regretting not asking everyone for an insane amount of Stefan/Caroline fic in their Holiday Fic lists. D:





















And just because this is the most fabulous ensemble video ever, and everyone even remotely interested in the show should watch it.



ETA: cassiehayes wrote fic you guys, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT S/C A FEW HOURS AGO AND SHE COMES UP WITH THIS. How so flawless? : I've got my veins all tangled close
 
 
 
нσω ∂σ уσυ нσℓ∂ α мσση вєαм ιη уσυʀ нαη∂?: diaries ♔ sc; for the first timefiddlings on November 23rd, 2011 08:55 pm (UTC)
Ahaha, I got the notif that you had updated, and my first thought was "Oh, I see that hiatus thing went well." ;)

BUT JKLFDS THIS POST. I LOVE YOU FOREVER AND EVER. I cannot wait to watch all of these videos.

So, in the last two days, I've developed this inexplicable, horrifically strong need for Stefan/Caroline.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THIS. I can't explain it, but they are one of those ships that I always know I ship. But every once in a while, I really see them or think about them, and I become COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY obsessed and in love with them. Because, really? I think they could be absolutely epic. ♥ AND ALSO. It doesn't even have to be romantic, like you said. Of course I would prefer it, but their friendship is just so wonderful and genuine. I just want them to interact. All the time. So much more than they do right now.

I love how much you wrote about Caroline. Not surprising, as I just love her, so I thoroughly enjoy reading other people's take on her character (particularly those I know love her like I do). You made some points I hadn't thought about before, but were totally true.

I LOVE THOSE GIFs. ♥

Aaaand now I want Stefan/Caroline fic.
youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 23rd, 2011 09:15 pm (UTC)
Ahaha, I got the notif that you had updated, and my first thought was "Oh, I see that hiatus thing went well." ;)

Oh god, I know, right? It lasted ALL OF A DAY. I'm telling myself it's because my exams haven't actually started, but the moment they do, I'll be all Srs Bzns. But then during my last exams too I was exactly like this, I got obsessed with TVD cast interviews :s

THERE WERE SO MANY MORE VIDEOS. I actually sat and watched them like I'm being paid to do it D: Is it normal to suddenly be so ridiculously obsessed?!

But every once in a while, I really see them or think about them, and I become COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY obsessed and in love with them.

WELL, I'M GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. This is the first time it's happened to me; and I was pretty sure that if I didn't post about it, I would explode. This is definitely exam pressure talking /sigh

Of course I would prefer it, but their friendship is just so wonderful and genuine. I just want them to interact. All the time.

That's exactly what's so great about them; that their friendship is so devoid of any romantic inclinations whatsoever and it's possible to enjoy it like that. It isn't as if I'm thinking "OMG, THEY SHOULD KISS NOW", it's just that I like them so much in every frame they choose to appear. They're the first pair that I like for being adorable. Because usually I go for the issues/angst-ridden/denial kind of ships. But these two- they're special.

I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WRITING ABOUT CAROLINE AT ALL. But, alas.

I want all the S/C fic so badly, it's not even funny. And even if I had it, there's no chance that I would actually have the time to read. Goddammit. D:
Gabby: brothers salvatoregabby227 on November 23rd, 2011 09:03 pm (UTC)
I really like the relationship between them that came out of Katherine turning her into a vampire. The scenes where Stefan helps her adjust are just AMAZING to me. There is one in-particular (I've only seen the S2 episodes once so I don't know the name of the ep) that I love, and that is the one of your icon (which, of course, I absolute ADORE, can I steal it?). The scene where she's in the bathroom freaking out and Stefan helps her by talking to her and showing her that she can be normal AND a vampire just is one of the most AMAZING scenes EVER, srsly.

I really wish my internet at home was faster so I could watch those vids, because I am really shipping Stefan/Caroline at the moment (which is weird in itself because I am currently working on a D/C fic) and I just absolutely adore their friendship.
youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 23rd, 2011 09:23 pm (UTC)
The scenes where Stefan helps her adjust are just AMAZING to me.

Oh god, those scenes. Is there anything more perfect in the universe? Because they were two characters that hadn't interacted at all, and suddenly they get this incredible scene that just hits you.

which, of course, I absolute ADORE, can I steal it?

This is what happens when I get obsessed, heh. Of course you can take it! ♥

And Stefan is so good with her, the way she's freaking out and he's so calming, the way he holds her face and teaches her how to retract the veins. My god, I cannot even with these two.

I really wish my internet at home was faster so I could watch those vids, because I am really shipping Stefan/Caroline at the moment (which is weird in itself because I am currently working on a D/C fic) and I just absolutely adore their friendship.

I've always, always shipped Damon/Caroline more (which is screwed in and of itself), but since yesterday I've been having such STRONG Caroline/Stefan feelings for absolutely no identifiable reason that I've almost forgotten any other ship in this show. I always get much too obsessed with stuff near exam-time D:
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Lizzie: tvd|you're making your serious facexx_pinkstar on November 23rd, 2011 10:12 pm (UTC)
*tears up* THIS POST IS SO BEAUTIFUL, I LOVE EVERYTHING IT CHOOSES TO BE AND STEFAN/CAROLINE AND YOU.

I can't even lie, I waste my life looking at manip!GIFS on tumblr.

Yo.



what is my life i can't even
youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 23rd, 2011 10:36 pm (UTC)
YOUR ICON IS EVERYTHING I LOVE ABOUT THEM; look at them all bright and cheerful and smiling and Stefan is just so amused by her, it is adorable ♥

I AM PRETTY MUCH WASTING MY LIFE AS WELL, YES. Also, tumblr has sort of...exploded with Klaus/Caroline/Stefan, which is the oddest and the best thing ever, so I'm wasting even MORE time D:



Even canonically, goddammit. LOOK AT THEM.
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a girl like that: stefan + carolinecassiehayes on November 23rd, 2011 10:42 pm (UTC)
Can I just agree with eveeeeeerything here? <3

Of course, these are the exact things that make her my favorite character, because she's just so tragically a teenage girl. SO true, and ditto to the part about people not liking Caroline as much because she's the most relatable but you don't really want to relate her. She's the girl who tries too hard and it still isn't enough and who can't empathize with that? Guh, this girl.

Everything about Stefan accepting Caroline so far above and beyond how anyone else ever really has is just A+ and yeah, I LIKE YOUR THOUGHTS BASICALLY.

Which Matt counters with "I don't know, it wasn't that bad" (and then proceeds to apologize to Stefan, which is why Matt will forever be the actual worst).

YES TO THIS. UGH. Matt was the worst person for Caroline, I can't even. And it was so annoying, because like, he's supposed to be the stand-up, good guy and he really was for the most part, like he treated pretty much everyone else (as per your example) with so much more respect than he ever treated Caroline.

Anyway you and your lovely post are making me feel all the Stefan/Caroline love and THESE TWOOOO I SWEAR. So I love you for all the videos which I am now going to go watch for all the feeeeeelings.

PS: You left meeee a Stefan/Caroline prompt for Holiday fic, which is gonna be all kinds of fluffy btw (comparatively at least, lol) so uhhh THERE IS THAT. Also YAY to Paul saying he did scenes with Candice, I had not heard that but it makes me immensely happy :D
youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 23rd, 2011 10:54 pm (UTC)
CAN I SAY HOW GLAD I AM THAT EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE SUITABLE S/C ICONS?

She's the girl who tries too hard and it still isn't enough and who can't empathize with that? Guh, this girl.



Oh my bb D: Look at her being all adorable and trying hard and Stefan with this "gurl, plz" expression. She breaks my heart. And I love how he always wasn't that accepting; you can tell that pretty much everyone IN TVD also thought she was just flighty and shallow ("deep's not really your thing, Care" -- which, what does that even mean?) and she's so self-aware, it kills me. She KNOWS she's hard to like and that she seems to mess up all the time, but she still goes ahead and tries. Aww.

Also, she totally chose Elena over Stefan that time when he told her that 'if she was his friend, she'd tell him where Elena was' and she DIDN'T, even when Stefan was mean to her, because she's Elena's friend first and she never breaks the girlfriend code. MY GIRL.

And it was so annoying, because like, he's supposed to be the stand-up, good guy and he really was for the most part, like he treated pretty much everyone else (as per your example) with so much more respect than he ever treated Caroline.

The worst was that the SHOW thought that Matt was the 'stand-up, good guy' and that Matt/Caroline was sweet. It was so obvious that all the times when he said things like "I wanted to strangle you" with something nice added, were supposed to be romantinc moments. Which, I cannot even with that.

You left meeee a Stefan/Caroline prompt for Holiday fic, which is gonna be all kinds of fluffy btw (comparatively at least, lol) so uhhh THERE IS THAT.

I AM GLAD. I was just sort of trying not to ask for ALL Damon/Caroline with people, and how glad am I that I didn't right now?

Also YAY to Paul saying he did scenes with Candice, I had not heard that but it makes me immensely happy :D

TUMBLR FTW. God knows how reliable it is, but, here's to hoping *raises glass*
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ever_neutral: c/s ~ like fluffy bunniesever_neutral on November 24th, 2011 02:23 am (UTC)
I THINK I AM STARTING TO SHIP THEM. Cassie wrote me an amazeballs fic which made me ~see the light. I actually always found their dynamic profoundly sexless, BUT I AM OPEN TO SEX (lol). No doubt Paul and Candice have some of the best chemistry on the show. In fact, I'm still not sure why the main romance isn't Caroline/Stefan. Sometimes I wonder. ::strokes chin::

Which Matt counters with "I don't know, it wasn't that bad" (and then proceeds to apologize to Stefan, which is why Matt will forever be the actual worst).

PAH. Seriously.

THAT "FIX YOU" VID IS AMAZEBALLS. Already saved to my computer~
Frances: TVD - Caroline Stefangoldy_dollar on November 24th, 2011 06:12 am (UTC)
I actually always found their dynamic profoundly sexless

lol THAT IS HOW THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TO ME AS WELL. Like I can imagine them living together in this weird co-dependent relationship down the road, watching movies together and fighting over the popcorn and racing each other to the kitchen for blood bags and maybe falling asleep on each other, BUT ADDING IN SEX IS JUST WEIRD I DUNNO.
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semi-titled: katherinepocochina on November 24th, 2011 03:20 am (UTC)
♥CAROLINE♥ She and Stefan are not so much The Sex to me but I love watching them together. Stefan just lights up around her in this way he almost never does, and she sees that and it's this whole ball of happiness. And I love when Caroline gets to be happy!

Caroline says something about how she doesn't like sports cars because they're "too hard to make out in", which just makes you cringe for her because she's so obviously trying too hard.

Caroline's sex-positivity is really interesting to me. As much as she's so adorably proud of herself for being all worldly and saying the dirty words and PEOPLE HAVE SEX DEAL WITH IT WOOO SHE SAID IT, it's also in part that her worries are really not moralized at all and it's so great to see a realistic girl that age without that particular baggage.

Caroline is annoying, she actually says the wrong things, she's much too bitchy, much too insensitive, much too into boys and much too insecure. Of course, these are the exact things that make her my favorite character, because she's just so tragically a teenage girl.

made her so loveable to me. Especially since the script had some or other character say that out loud about her, oh, EVERY TEN MINUTES.

It's funny, because having seen two short interviews with Julie Plec, it's painfully difficult not to suspect a lot of that was about her projecting some apologies for her own success into the character, as if she just assumed "of course everyone will be so annoyed with her/me." Which would be a bit uncomfortable and sympathetic, if it wasn't aimed at a teen audience who's supposed to identify with her? Hey, kids, you know how you're all afraid everyone around you sees your low self-image and totally hates you for it? YOU'RE RIGHT!

Which makes it all the more rewarding that EVERYONE who watches the show knows all that and loves her SO MUCH so whatever.
youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 24th, 2011 07:19 am (UTC)
Stefan just lights up around her in this way he almost never does, and she sees that and it's this whole ball of happiness. And I love when Caroline gets to be happy!

THIS EXACTLY. It's not that I want them to go at it (which also I wouldn't mind, to be very honest), I just want them to be in the SAME FREAKING FRAME. Like, I'm pretty sure Paul and Candice could carry it on from there. There's some really good chemistry there, and I just want them to see the show realizing it and making them the best bffs forever and ever.

As much as she's so adorably proud of herself for being all worldly and saying the dirty words and PEOPLE HAVE SEX DEAL WITH IT WOOO SHE SAID IT, it's also in part that her worries are really not moralized at all and it's so great to see a realistic girl that age without that particular baggage.

Which is FANTASTIC, as I think. When she first appeared on screen, as this girl who was kind of bitchy to the lead, was thought sort of useless by pretty much everyone, tried to hit on the male lead and openly advocated sex ("Boy likes girl. Girl likes boy. Sex." will forever be the most adorable thing ever), I was all "wow, she's going to die within the next two episodes". AND THEN SHE DIDN'T AND IT WAS AWESOME (although she always seems to get into the worst situations in the post-coital period; Damon, Matt, Tyler :s). Although that car remark was just such an obvious remark, in the 'I don't know anything about cars but I shall say something suitably inappropriate' and then she gets shot down. My bb. D:

Especially since the script had some or other character say that out loud about her, oh, EVERY TEN MINUTES.

YEAH. It's like they're all just tolerating her? Which, what? HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT CAROLINE FORBES IS THE BEST FRIEND EVER?

I found that part about Julie Plec really interesting, because I had completely never thought of that. And Caroline's characterization is fabulous, but the worst, like you mentioned, is that the characters themselves never acknowledge it. Anyone talking about Caroline praises her with a qualifying statement and disclaimers (which is why Tyler's outright "she's awesome" won so much).

Which makes it all the more rewarding that EVERYONE who watches the show knows all that and loves her SO MUCH so whatever.

AMEN.
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youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 24th, 2011 07:22 am (UTC)
I WOKE UP AND THEN GOT HIT BY AN INSANE OBSESSIVE LOVE. How does that even happen? D: They have amazing chemistry, and the most fantastic thing is, how it's completely not sexual. They could be best friends forever and my life wish will still be fulfilled.

THAT VIDEO, I CANNOT EVEN DEAL WITH IT. D:
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Frances: TVD - Caroline Stefan just like Lexigoldy_dollar on November 24th, 2011 06:09 am (UTC)
HEY REMEMBER THIS SCENE AKA GREATEST SCENE OF ALL TIME I KNOW THAT YOU DO.

For some reason I just can't ship Stefan/Caroline in a sexual way, but I want them to be besties for forever and all time. I miss their cute little faces around each other. NOBODY MAKES STEFAN LAUGH LIKE CAROLINE DOES. D:

She so happy with Stefan for "always looking out for me" (which, oh Caroline /pets) and that's all she really needs. Somebody to listen and not constantly be told that there are more important things.

YESSSSS. THIS IS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THEM TOO. Stefan doesn't make demands or expectations on Caroline like both Matt and Tyler do. It's so great for Caroline that she can be such close friends with a guy who isn't secretly vying to get into her pants or trying to score brownie points with Elena. He just cares because he cares, that's it, there's no agenda. And in return, she makes him laugh. <3333

p.s. I might have written a couple of Stefan n' Caroline being buds fics once upon a time? But I always feel weird and awkward about pimping myself out. Plus it was S2 canon and that feels weird now.
youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 24th, 2011 07:30 am (UTC)
THE BEST SCENE IN THE HISTORY OF BEST SCENES.

You know, that was seriously the moment I fell in love with Stefan. I'd seen episodes till 2x11 in a week, and I was firmly a Damon girl. AND THEN THIS SCENE COMES ALONG AND I DON'T EVEN. Initially I was actually mad that they added in the Stefan/Elena 'love you' (also, because I wasn't an S/E fan then. I JUST SAW ALL THE EPISODES IN A WEEK, SO I KEPT MY OPINIONS STATIC FROM THE FIRST EPISODE ONWARDS, FORGIVE ME) because I felt the entire scene should've been about Caroline. But then every time I see it again, I realize, how could Elena not have said it at that moment? As in, who could possibly not be in love with this flawless human being? Elena needed to say it at that moment.

It's so great for Caroline that she can be such close friends with a guy who isn't secretly vying to get into her pants or trying to score brownie points with Elena. He just cares because he cares, that's it, there's no agenda. And in return, she makes him laugh. <3333



The way he handles it, it is so ~intense and calming and wonderful and NOT DEALING VERY WELL WITH THIS, RIGHT NOW.

I might have written a couple of Stefan n' Caroline being buds fics once upon a time? But I always feel weird and awkward about pimping myself out. Plus it was S2 canon and that feels weird now.

Season 2 canon that features Stefan/Caroline is NEVER weird. (Considering we have no S3 canon for them as it is :s) ALL THE LINKS. I WANT ALL THE LINKS.
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Laura: TVD- Stefan & Lexionetruefriend on November 24th, 2011 08:39 am (UTC)
I just like S/C as friends b/c Caroline reminds Stefan of Lexi. I think in helping Caroline it made Stefan feel like he was paying it forward from what Lexi tought him. I'd love to see them still be friends when his whole ripper thing is over, but that's it. I'm strictly a Stelena girl, lol.
youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 24th, 2011 09:02 am (UTC)
Haha, that is probably true, although I like to think that Stefan did it without any sense of obligation and only for Caroline, mostly because she deserves to have someone for whom she's not substituting someone. I don't mind S/C in any form; like if they just remained friends, I would still be ecstatic, I just want them in the same fame basically, lol
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youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 24th, 2011 04:42 pm (UTC)
Pt. 1
They have a great chemistry together, and everyone has chemistry with everyone else in this cast.

IS THIS TRUE OR WHAT. How does this cast even exist? It’s like they put Bonnie and Alaric into one scene together and WHAM- chemistry.

Except for poor Matt where chemistry goes to die.

Hee, I concur, yes.

For me there is no one single reason that motivates his desire to help Caroline.

Exactly, for me it stems from who Stefan is as a person. He genuinely cares that much and he would do it for a whole host of reasons. He tried to calm Vicki down as well, to help her, which is fantastic and then he had to stake her himself. And I imagine he wouldn’t want that to happen to Caroline, even if only because she’s Elena’s friends. I love that their friendship grew, it didn’t always exist.

I also think the audience is predisposed to sympathize with Caroline over Elena.

In my opinion, this is true now. Now there’s a general tendency in fandom that everything Caroline does is sunshine and rainbows. There is also this awful, inexplicable tendency to hate on Elena for no particular reason. But I do remember this wasn’t always the case. Pretty much the majority of fandom intensely disliked Caroline when the show started, and it’s not hard to see why. It’s not only that Caroline was the second choice always (which possible would make her sympathetic), it was because she told Elena that the reason she wasn’t good at cheerleading was that her parents’ death had made her miss cheer camp, and then she was bitchy to her about the sexy car wash or whatever, and she was generally remarkably insensitive. In most first season fics I read, Caroline is always portrayed as this horrible loud-mouthed character always trying to steal Elena’s boyfriends.

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Florencia: DE (I'm Happy)florencia7 on November 24th, 2011 08:47 pm (UTC)
Every scene they have together always screams to me that they could be HAPPY together & that's such a wonderful & rare impression ♥ Maybe the show is saving the best for last? like season 6 or something lol
youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 24th, 2011 09:13 pm (UTC)
They could be glorious; like I can see them fighting a lot, and Caroline getting jealous if he's much too nice to other girls (which he's bound to be, since Stefan's a nice guy). but they'd also make each other smile like no one else can. Oh. But at this point, I'd just settle for the, y'know, being in the same frame. :s

more like in the movie, I'd say ;) #sixseasonsandamovie
jane_wanderlustjane_wanderlust on November 24th, 2011 11:48 pm (UTC)
They are adorable. :)
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BASICALLY:



Your Loki icon is still a ~stunner
Pied: carolinewheatear on November 25th, 2011 04:15 pm (UTC)
Oh wow, that last video is amazing.

And I love everything you wrote about Caroline and Stefan/Caroline here. They are flawless together and it's so sad that we haven't seen any interaction between them in Season 3.
youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 25th, 2011 05:10 pm (UTC)
That is my absolute favorite; I love it so much!

THIS LACK OF INTERACTION IS INEXPLICABLE. They're actually the only people I've wanted to interact on the sheer adorable and functionality factor, because I always go for the ~tortured angst-ridden ship, but they are SO FLAWLESS.
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youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on November 26th, 2011 05:21 pm (UTC)
I KNOW, I'VE LOST IT OVER THEM. But seriously, this lack of interaction is absolutely inexplicable D:
ambassador of kwanabvj on December 10th, 2011 12:39 am (UTC)
I was just going to message you because I'm writing your Holiday fic as we speak and I needed to ask you if it was okay if I did Stefan/Caroline instead of Damon/Caroline, but I am assuming that this post means I don't have to ask?!?

(Which is good because it is already almost done. Whoops.)
youcallitwinter: youcallitwinter on December 10th, 2011 10:30 am (UTC)
Hahaha, YOU'RE IN MY BRAIN, WHAT? I did go on this huge Stefan/Caroline thing and was insanely obsessed, so of course, any fic is welcome :D Besides, I'm pretty sure I asked D/C from everyone, and then wished I'd asked for a few more S/C fics.

ALSO, YAY FOR HOLIDAY FIC :D