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22 January 2012 @ 06:34 am
Thicker Than Water (aka TVD is making use of titles we used for our crack!fic that one time)  

I thought I was done with the whole episode-recap thing D: [On an unrelated note, I also really badly want to write a Spike meta for some reason.]

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- So this happened and turned an otherwise average episode around.

  

THE ORIGINAL BAMF IS BACK, ON YOUR KNEES EVERYONE. Dude, the first thing he did was pull out random-hybrid-heart. HOW SO FLAWLESS?

I was actually spoiled for this because the moment I entered college, half the people are like “ELIJAH’S BACK” and I’m all “I haven’t seen the episode yet, wtf DDD:”

- Bonnie’s storyline. That was some fantastic acting by Kat Graham. The snark, the teenage angst, the hurt, the very visible not-dealing, and the expressions. It wasn’t a reunion that led into the sunset, it was painful and it was awkward and just beautifully captured.

- LOLOLOLOL@Damon checking out the competition. He’s all ‘okay, you’re a psychopath, presumably killed your ex-boyfriend, so stay away from mine’.

- Stefan/Elena confrontations were so emotionally charged in expression and silences, GUH. And I think it says a lot for their relationship that Elena can still only be honest about her feelings with him; admit things she doesn’t even want to admit to herself. “I kissed him” (markedly different from her “Damon kissed me” to Bonnie, and Damon’s “we kissed”).

- Damon just going ‘we kissed, now it’s weird.’ BEST MOMENT EVER. What have we been saying about our BrOTP all this while, children? THEY NEED TO HIT PUBERTY BEFORE THEY CAN SEX IT UP. Exhibit A.

- Dr. Fell just taking blood from Damon like nbd. Also, please dude, I came up with this like way before, what is this town even? That time with Jeremy and the hybrid and the meat cleaver, all I was really thinking was; but why don’t they just store the blood and give some to Alaric? IS THERE A STORY BEHIND WHY THEY CAN’T? Except apparently they can. And nobody’s ever thought of this before?! Well, I guess the whole negotiating all the triangles in the town takes up all their time, so (Candice called it a ‘huge geometry problem’, hee).

- That was Rebekah’s coffin Klaus was stroking? Of course it was.

- OKAY, SO ALARIC TOOK HIS NEWEST LOVE INTEREST (bets on how long she lasts. It’s Alaric, after all) TO ELENA’S PLACE? He’s still living with his just-turned-eighteen, history student, after they made her sixteen-year-old brother skip town? And you’re trying to tell me the show doesn’t want me to ship Alaric/Elena?

- Damon-and-Alaric bromance just sort of went off charts. They check out each other’s’ potentials (hey, that’s probably why Alaric was so mad at the Damon/Elena thing) and they casually watch each other lift weights, just your regular hetrosexual male stuff.

- Stefan punching Damon and Damon’s complete lack of reaction. After all, this is their own particular brand of love. Ah, Salvatores.

- EVERYTHING IS KLEFAN AND NOTHING HURTS.

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What was the characterization? I don’t know what the general consensus is but this episode Stefan’s characterization really made me O.o His reactions just felt so…not-Stefan to me. I can understand “you’re better than both of us” (…or something) but “you’re better than him?” Stefan Salvatore who stans Damon like it’s his job? I know everyone’s going to cite all those times when Stefan acted the part of the possessive boyfriend (in Isobel, I think), but that is not normal-Stefan-behavior. Because Stefan Salvatore was the first to tell Elena that Damon had seen the ring before snapping Jeremy’s neck. That it was only because he loved her and couldn’t bear to let her die that he’d tried to force feed her his blood. Who told Elena that Damon was on death’s door after being explicitly told not to.

The problem isn’t that Ripper!Stefan or Turn-It-Off!Stefan or Crazy!Stefan feel like different people; that’s absolutely fine. In fact, that’s catapulted Stefan to the list of my favorites on this show. The problem is that, right now, Stefan feels like a different character. It’s like Damon, in all his glory killing days in beginning of season one is still relatable with all the snark and clock-fixing and pouts to the very-much-in-love Damon of right now. But Stefan in the present time shares practically no character traits with Stefan then.

Also, what’s more O________O Is Stefan’s reaction to Elena having kissed Damon. Like, where did that even come from? He’s spent all this while actively trying to distance her, and he’s succeeded, and I can understand the silences when he realizes how much he’s lost, but I genuinely cannot understand “maybe the bridge thing was going too far”. YOU THINK? Also, there seems to have been no fallout from that, which too is just D:

It’s silly to blame a fictional character; this is just a product of shoddy writing. I’m just annoyed because all those Stefan vs. Damon (WHO’S BETTER? DAMON KILLED ONE PERSON LESS SO OBV HIM. OR STEFAN IS DOING EVERYTHING FOR DAMON SO OBV HIM. Ugh) debates would’ve been roused again, and I was really hoping to not have to deal with too much character hate.

- Also, I’m just really disappointed that Caroline was present in that scene with Tyler and her dad. I can understand Tyler going that distance, and Bill is batshit crazy with his behavior modificational therapies, but Caroline? I genuinely would’ve expected her to put up a fight there; she’s been through that. The situation is different of course, because Tyler genuinely seems to have no free will with respect to Klaus’ commands and wants to be free of it, but I can’t see Caroline being all ‘yeah, sure, whatever’ about it. It would’ve made way more sense to me if Tyler had just arranged the whole thing on his own and there was no Caroline involvement. And tbh, that whole arc was just boring.

- This is just a minor gripe, but every time it seems TVD might actually pass the Bechdel Test, it just…doesn’t. The Bonnie/Elena road trip was such a good time for genuinely bonding; dealing with outstanding Jeremy issues, talking about Bonnie’s mom and how she feels (“I don’t know what to say” is a narrative choice, not the ultimate truth), but instead it’s all about oh-you-kissed-Damon. Just like that time when Caroline had been tortured by her dad, and her next-day topic-of-conversation was ‘so what’s up with you and Damon?’ Also, no mention of the fact that Caroline nearly died and was revived by freaking Klaus’s blood. Ditto Elena and Wickery bridge. The parallel narrative arcs are almost so parallel, they might not even be part of the same episode :s And ever since my recent Buffy obsession, this is somehow really important to me. 

HOWEVER, NOW THAT ELIJAH IS BACK, I CANNOT WAIT FOR MORE. 3X14 specifically, hee. Here, have some icons in the meantime xD   


The Vampire Diaries Season Three: 45in45

[45 thematic + 6 misc]


 
  
  



                              10 so, one day more am I deified


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|funeral||hope||smile||lost||mirror|






                                     5 nothing gold can stay

#gold#purple#blue#red#green






             5 that's just the way it looks from where I'm standing

center #1right #2side #3left #4down #5





  



                           5 just maybe you'll remember me

single scene #1single scene #2single scene #3single scene #4single scene #5






                           5 I think I made you up inside my head

ship #1ship #2ship #3ship #4
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                         5 it's only words, and words are all I have

text #1text #2text #3text #4text #5





   
                          
5 don't look too deep into those angel eyes

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                          5 some say the world will end in fire

Artist's Choice #1Artist's Choice #2Artist's Choice #3Artist's Choice #4
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                               6 Misc

   
  


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ETA: JOSH FUCKING HOLLOWAY JUST MADE AN APPEARANCE IN THE FIRST EPISODE OF Angel. LOLWUT. [Still haven't finished Buffy, can't physically bear to cuz I don't know what to do with my life after D:]
 
 
 
Ishi-chanishi_chan on January 22nd, 2012 03:13 pm (UTC)
I can sort of see Caroline being okay with it because Tyler isn't chained there against his will to be tortured, but rather because he wants it and the chains are there so he won't hurt anybody else. It's just not the same thing for me (and she probably didn't think her dad would get all batshit about it as soon as she left).

THIS CONVERSATION THING BOTHERS ME SO MUCH. It's like they have such important things to talk about, but the show rather spends its time reminding us that Delena is actually happening. It's there, actually on our screens when they kissed, WE GET IT. THE FICTIONAL CHARACTERS ON THIS SHOW SHOULDN'T CARE SO MUCH WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON - THEY ARE NOT FANGIRLS!!! (most of them anyway :P)

Stefan, I don't know. I don't have so many issues with it. For me it's just now that he's not compelled anymore, but still sort of the bad Stefan he's in this weird in-between place nd doesn't quite know who to be and how to act. For me it's just part of finding himself again (I do that sometimes too, and also act like completely different people on a day-to-day-basis).
youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 22nd, 2012 03:20 pm (UTC)
I just wish Caroline wasn't involved at all, because after all, this guy (her father, no less) DID torture her into the same kind of thing that he's now trying to torture Tyler into. I'm still side-eyeing all these torture-arcs lol. No wonder Stefan turned out the way he did if that's how Lexi "cured" him D:

Hahaha, you really don't like D/E, do you :P I can understand it's something friends would talk about, but I do wish they kind of bonded over stuff other than guys, because sometimes it feels like it's ALL ABOUT the guys (when it's not ALL ABOUT family), and I just want all the C/B/E bff times!

Stefan-- I guess that's the difference between being a person and a character (in the truth is stranger than fiction sort of way), people do stuff with no rationalization and something that might not be consistent with who they usually project themselves to be; but in fiction, the characterization has to have some degree of consistency to make narrative sense, and I'm a bit lost at the moment on that count!
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Azmiri Sultana Mridulmridul777 on January 22nd, 2012 03:49 pm (UTC)
Pt 1
Hmm...nice as always.... your icons and your breakdown of TVD episodes. Actually no not just nice... very intriguing!

About Stefan and his sudden "you're better than him"... honestly speaking this baffled me so bad. At first I didn't understand why and what he said, but after watching a few times I had an idea which I verified with a few LJ friends.

I think that generally it's a thumb rule for Stefan that Damon is above everything for him, it's not something he thinks and then does... it's just how he's programmed.

But when it comes to Damon/Elena actually getting closer and maybe without his involvement OR he feels like he might be loosing her truly this time, he suddenly gets jealous and starts getting all righteous,and that disturbs him, so he becomes the hypocrite, NOW is the time he chooses to do or say the right thing or the ideal thing. ...(coz face it when it's Stefan advocating Damon to Elena, there's always the fact that stays behind everyone's head that "OH so noble and hero Stefan who still can't think bad about his brother'")....

I guess that's the shows way of showing us that no matter how much these siblings love each other and how much they are willing to do or die for each other there'll ALWAYS be a tinge of jealousy or rivalry.. intentional or unintentional, thus making the characters more flawed and giving them even more facets.

The Tyler torture thing.. I think Bill Forbes should open up a "Avoid Compulsion Class 101" in Mystic Falls High, I mean in a town like that it is highly important/necessary, and he seems to the "on-call" person for that. It was boring..the whole thing, so I didn't bother. Caroline's concern for Tyler during his "breakdown" into wolf was something because of the kind of person she is..sweet, delicate, nice and caring... but I HOPE she doesn't go back to him unless he actively leaves this sire bond, and he should be able to... he was the one who said he loves her. She didn't!

About the Bechdel Test... Firstly thank you for introducing me to a new concept and secondly you're so right. For a show that emphasizes on the fact that the women here are powerful, they are empowered and strong and dependent and and DO things no matter the age size and race they seem to fall out a little on the aspect you pointed out. maybe that's where the teen/romatic-y/wheee things comes into play? I don't know. I mean in this case (Bonnie and Elena), after Damon's "revelation" people were EXPECTING to see Elena and more especially Bonnie's reaction to the news and how Elena explains it to Bonnie.

But Caroline's dialogue of "switching Salvatore" the day after she was tortured with just a minute nod to the gruesome happening from Bonnie, was a little iffy. I think Brain Young (the writer for both these episodes) needs to tie some of his knots while writing.... it's almost tangible that he wrote these Ep's from the way these characters behave..

I don't really trust Dr. Meredith Fell. I don't know, this town and it's happenings are way too screwed to have someone with so little secret. And whatever happened to her boyfriend, nobody clarified...

But Alaric.. dear god! I get it that he likes the lady but if he has to be honest with her, which I get must be a big thing for him before starting a new relationship because his first relationship was screwed up because of Isobel's half truths and then her sudden urge to screw everything and become a vampire, and then Alaric's next relationship was "on the rocks" ;)...because of him lying. BUT DUDE.. if ya gotta be honest, open up about your own stuff. Him sharing Damon's secrets about vervain to someone he doesn't know at all, was just stupid. AND bringing her to a home where he currently stays with a 18 year old is..... I am confused.



Edited at 2012-01-22 03:54 pm (UTC)
youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 28th, 2012 05:22 pm (UTC)
Re: Pt 1
Hey, thanks so much! That's really nice of you to say :D

But when it comes to Damon/Elena actually getting closer and maybe without his involvement OR he feels like he might be loosing her truly this time, he suddenly gets jealous and starts getting all righteous,and that disturbs him, so he becomes the hypocrite

Actually, that's a good point! Something I concluded myself after thinking about it a bit; I think it's the fear of losing both Damon and Elena (and to each other, no less) that made him act that way. Because Damon is the most important part of his life and this incident probably made him realize that HE is not the most important part of Damon's life. Ouch D:

It's Stefan advocating Damon to Elena, there's always the fact that stays behind everyone's head that "OH so noble and hero Stefan who still can't think bad about his brother

Very interesting, haha, even though Damon's my favorite, I love Stefan to an irrational extent so I tend to try and not think this about him usually, but yeah, I can definitely see why people would think this :D

Tthere'll ALWAYS be a tinge of jealousy or rivalry.. intentional or unintentional, thus making the characters more flawed and giving them even more facets.

Exactly! Which is why there will never be any real heroism in TVD because everyone's sort of working on their own agenda (whether it's protecting people they love or taking revenge or whatever. After all Stefan's reaction to Klaus is almost exactly Damon's reaction to Stefan at the beginning of the series, 'eternity of misery' and everything)

The Tyler torture thing.. I think Bill Forbes should open up a "Avoid Compulsion Class 101" in Mystic Falls High, I mean in a town like that it is highly important/necessary, and he seems to the "on-call" person for that. It was boring..the whole thing, so I didn't bother.

HAHAHAHA, THAT IS SO TRUE. But yeah, I found it boring as well, they need to stop rehashing stuff they've done D:

For a show that emphasizes on the fact that the women here are powerful, they are empowered and strong and dependent and and DO things no matter the age size and race they seem to fall out a little on the aspect you pointed out.

Which I think is a little sad, because women's empowerment is taken up by a lot of shows today, but female solidarity seems a little lacking. Like, girls are always the competitor figures, or there's that one girl who's always "more special" than others (which is mostly determined by the number of males who validate her specialness) and that's just -__- I know it's REALISTIC to talk about D/E in the car, but on the other hand, it's also a CHOICE that the writers make; to prioritize something over the other.

I think Brain Young (the writer for both these episodes) needs to tie some of his knots while writing.... it's almost tangible that he wrote these Ep's from the way these characters behave

Yeah, he had some good moments, but the characterization has been a little off, ngl

AND bringing her to a home where he currently stays with a 18 year old is..... I am confused.

THE WHOLE SCENE MADE ME LOL SO HARD. Like, seriously, Alaric, seriously? And WHY is he still living with Elena? More importantly, HOW? Does no one in this town go 'dude, that is so legit inappropriate.
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Azmiri Sultana Mridul: pic#113356316mridul777 on January 22nd, 2012 03:49 pm (UTC)
Pt 2
Also... this was bugging me. Abby said she lost her powers tying up Mikael who showed up 15 years ago to find the doppelganger. Miranda asked for help so Abby helped. (interesting point, in Mystic Falls friendship/best friendship runs in family)
So Miranda knew that her daughter is the infamous doppelganger and she and possible John and Elena's uncle/dad knew 'bout her truth. So Isobel knew about her and ALL this as well. Is that why a cheerleader became a paranormal researcher and then a vampire, I men she turned why? to help and protect Elena coz she knew more about these things.
Katherine once said, "Doppelgangers were created" in Season 2 Ep 09, when talking about the curse that Petrova blood was used to create the curse and doppelgangers were created as a means of breaking them (Newton's 3rd and apparently Witch's law of having a reaction spell for every action spell.. why? I don't know, but I want to).. so Elena's birth, it was special.. did people know that she was someone who was going to be elementary in ALL this. Was that why her birth topic is still hazy? And Katherine, I mean for a time and for a family who is soo against pre-marital sex and a baby that they banished their own daughter, why did they keep the baby. Intentionally to keep the bloodline flowing, because they might have known about Katherine's identity as a doppelganger and if anything happens to her, the bloodline needs to be kept protected?
Abby sure knows MUCH MUCH more about these things than she's let on/letting on at this point, abou


Anywho... relevant thing is....

ELIJAH IS BACK










And MY GOD what a comeback!


youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 28th, 2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
Re: Pt 2
MY GOD THOSE ARE SOME VERY, VERY SMART THOUGHTS. Seriously, I haven't heard anyone bring up these issues and the way you put it is fascinating! If it's true, that everyone knew about the Doppelganger then Isobel's role and actions get problematized. And the question of Katherine's baby! Wow, I wonder if they're going to explore this stuff later? That'd be amazing! Like, maybe with the original Petrova they can talk about the need and theory behind the concept of the doppelganger!

BUT OF COURSE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING: ELIJAH

goldenusagigoldenusagi on January 22nd, 2012 04:30 pm (UTC)
So this happened and turned an otherwise average episode around.

Yeah, it was pretty middle of the road until the last 20 seconds.

THE ORIGINAL BAMF IS BACK, ON YOUR KNEES EVERYONE. Dude, the first thing he did was pull out random-hybrid-heart.

He has to make up for lost time.



He’s all ‘okay, you’re a psychopath, presumably killed your ex-boyfriend, so stay away from mine’.

Don't mess with Damon's boyfriend, yo.

That was Rebekah’s coffin Klaus was stroking? Of course it was.

It also seemed to be a prettier coffin. Just saying.

Caroline didn't tell her boyfriend or her daddy that the super powerful hybrid gave her a really nice bracelet.
youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 25th, 2012 06:04 pm (UTC)
Yeah, it was pretty middle of the road until the last 20 seconds.

Haha, I've been enjoying everything because I'm not reacting the right way; I kind of found it hilarious when Stefan drove without Elena AGAIN.

AS FOR ELIJAH,



BASICALLY. But seriously, he was out of that coffin for like three seconds and he upped the entire game by the sheer force of his hair presence :O

It also seemed to be a prettier coffin. Just saying.

[Klaus, your incest is showing, boy D:]

Haha, yeah, it's like 'So my boyfriend's evil hybrid sire said nice things to me and then fed me his blood and saved my life because it was my birthday and gave me a diamond bracelet, nbd, continue with the brainwashing techniques plz'.

Also, OT, in a show where they're messing up everyone's hair [R.I.P Damon's sexy hair] Elijah's is suddenly even MORE GORGEOUS in the 3x13 pictures?
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Francesgoldy_dollar on January 22nd, 2012 04:39 pm (UTC)
NO YOU MUST ALWAYS WRITE ALL THE REACTION POSTS.

I feel so off with all of fandom though. Like last week I was like "hmm, not feeling it" while fandom went BEST EVER and this week I was all "\o/\o/" while my flist went "nope, try again later." DD: WHAT AM I DOING WRONG, WHAT ARE MY LIFE'S CHOICES.

That was Rebekah’s coffin Klaus was stroking? Of course it was.

LOL YOU KNOW IT.

OKAY, SO ALARIC TOOK HIS NEWEST LOVE INTEREST (bets on how long she lasts. It’s Alaric, after all) TO ELENA’S PLACE?

LMAO, RIGHT? ALARIC WHAT IS YOUR LIFE. And Elena was all "ofc you can bring over all your girlfriends and make out with them in my living room, it's cool."

This is just a minor gripe, but every time it seems TVD might actually pass the Bechdel Test, it just…doesn’t. The Bonnie/Elena road trip was such a good time for genuinely bonding; dealing with outstanding Jeremy issues, talking about Bonnie’s mom and how she feels (“I don’t know what to say” is a narrative choice, not the ultimate truth), but instead it’s all about oh-you-kissed-Damon.

Ugh yeah. And I would have been fine with it if Bonnie's reaction had made sense? But Bonnie was all HAHAHA BUT WAS IT A GOOD KISS THOUGH which.... WHERE IS BONNIE AND WHO REPLACED HER. I mean on one hand I like that the drama was downplayed but on the other hand, Bonnie being okay with delena shenanigans isn't very true to canon. But fine. FINE TVD.

HEY ICONS OF PRETTY GIRLS. :DDD I APPROVE.
youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 25th, 2012 06:30 pm (UTC)
I'M PRETTY SURE PRICE PETERSON MAKES UP FOR ALL OF US, REALLY.

Hahaha, that is off with fandom from what little I've had a chance to see. I think everyone was pretty meh about this episode for some reason (even though, when I generally think of it, I don't know why I felt that way considering Bonnie was epic, there was Klefan and Dalaric and Stefan/Elena confrontation and everything, but I still did. Weird that D:P) BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE FAR GREATER ABILITIES OF PERCEPTION AND YOU MUST USE YOUR POWER FOR GOOD.

And Elena was all "ofc you can bring over all your girlfriends and make out with them in my living room, it's cool."

Hahahaha, I remember a couple episodes back I was all 'but why is no one asking why this history teacher randomly lives with his hot, underage history student'. THE ANSWER TO ALL OF THE QUESTIONS IN THE UNIVERSE IS: it's Mystic Falls. /shrug. (At least she's of age now, the degree of inappropriateness just went down a degree to about 476965920240)

Bonnie being okay with delena shenanigans isn't very true to canon.

THIS, EXACTLY. Like, I can appreciate the downplaying of the drama, but I don't understand it. I genuinely think what happened is that the Stefan characterization is so drastic that Damon just seems okay by comparison? Like, everyone keeps talking about his redemption arc or whatever, but I think the stakes changed so much that the problem is that all those things that should have been addressed re: his character and others' responses to him just...aren't, because he's so much NOT a threat that to have him be 'better' or actively try and 'redeem' himself will not work because he's, well, not doing anything technically, and to try and make him the bad guy for stuff that happened in S1/S2 isn't working. IDK, it's a little odd in terms of storytelling.

I ALWAYS ICON GIRLS MORE, THEY'RE JUST PRETTY AND SPARKLY AND HAVE SO MANY BAMF-LIKE POSES.
jane_wanderlustjane_wanderlust on January 22nd, 2012 04:46 pm (UTC)
Oh, how you've been missed so much.

ALSO:

- This is just a minor gripe, but every time it seems TVD might actually pass the Bechdel Test, it just…doesn’t. The Bonnie/Elena road trip was such a good time for genuinely bonding; dealing with outstanding Jeremy issues, talking about Bonnie’s mom and how she feels (“I don’t know what to say” is a narrative choice, not the ultimate truth), but instead it’s all about oh-you-kissed-Damon. Just like that time when Caroline had been tortured by her dad, and her next-day topic-of-conversation was ‘so what’s up with you and Damon?’ Also, no mention of the fact that Caroline nearly died and was revived by freaking Klaus’s blood. Ditto Elena and Wickery bridge. The parallel narrative arcs are almost so parallel, they might not even be part of the same episode :s And ever since my recent Buffy obsession, this is somehow really important to me.

this

Every time the show could go, should go there with friendship and character development...it doesn't.

BUT OMG ICON HEAVEN.
So many to choose from!!! :D :D
youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 25th, 2012 06:46 pm (UTC)
And how I have missed. [Heh, the two together almost sound poetic, we're a team, yo]

BRB, SHAMELESSLY STEALING THE GIF. I think it's from Doctor Who? /all I know about fandom, I learned from icons.

ever_neutral pointed out that Abby and Bonnie totally passed the Bechdel Test, which, TOTALLY TRUE. I just wish that the epic Bonnie/Caroline/Elena friendship was ever explored instead of the constant Tyler/Damon/Jeremy or whoever Bonnie's guy is talk that always dominates everything.

I HAVE STOPPED MAKING BATCHES WITH 200 ICONS FINALLY \O/
Olga: TVD | K/R | 3x03 | Reviveddreamingahead on January 22nd, 2012 05:37 pm (UTC)
LOLOLOLOL@Damon checking out the competition. He’s all ‘okay, you’re a psychopath, presumably killed your ex-boyfriend, so stay away from mine’.

I loved the return of the bromance. Alaric was all, "You shouldn't have", and Damon was like, "DON'T WORRY I GOT YOU COVERED". <3 The fact that Alaric brought her to Elena's & told her all his & Damon's secrets on their first date was worrisome, though. I would have taken caution given her vampire roofying/assaulting tendencies, but Alaric was all ~impressed. Also, LOLOL H8ER BILL WAS SAVED BY VAMPIRE BLOOD AGAIN. HE SHOULD REMEMBER THAT WHEN HE DECLARES A WAR ON ALL THE VAMPIRES IN TOWN.

“I kissed him” (markedly different from her “Damon kissed me” to Bonnie, and Damon’s “we kissed”).

I also enjoyed the distinction! that she couldn't lie to Stefan even about the things she's been lying about to herself.

I can understand “you’re better than both of us” (…or something) but “you’re better than him?” Stefan Salvatore who stans Damon like it’s his job?

I was completely completely o_O at that closing line as well. It reminded me of all the "x is better than y" wank that is going on in fandom without the show having to explicitly contribute to it. DNW. D:


I've had it up here with this show's fascination of torture rehab tbh. SHUT IT DOWN.


Definitely hear where you're coming from re: Bechdel Test (post-Caroline's torture was a shiny example wtf). However, ngl, I was expecting Damon to come up during the Bonnie/Elena field trip b/c they sort of left it hanging in the air in the kitchen scene. Ofc, Bonnie could have asked her right there after Damon left, thus making the actual field trip truly about Bonnie & her mother, Caroline's narrow escape and MAYBE THE EVENTS WHERE ELENA WENT THROUGH HELL LAST NIGHT. But fine.


Perfect icons, bb. I snagged a bunch to update my userpic wardrobe, will credit. <3
youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 27th, 2012 07:04 pm (UTC)
Alaric was all, "You shouldn't have", and Damon was like, "DON'T WORRY I GOT YOU COVERED".

HAHA, YEAH, MAN, it's so obvious that he actually just went to the hospital to tell her to back off from his man. BB DOESN'T EVEN TRY TO HIDE IT, REALLY, and then typically gets tazered.

And Alaric's obv like 'HERE IS THE HOUSE IN WHICH I LIVE WITH MY BEAUTIFUL TEENAGE STUDENT. What d'you mean it's weird, this is Mystic Falls dude.

BILL, WHAT IS YOUR LIFE EVEN? There is a lesson in this /nods

It reminded me of all the "x is better than y" wank that is going on in fandom without the show having to explicitly contribute to it. DNW. D:

LISTEN, THIS LINE SHOULD BE IN THE TVD HALL OF FAME. No, but seriously, I think you hit the nail right on the head. This is exactly what struck me as so wrong about that scene, that I didn't consciously realize. It's so much fan wank. First, OF COURSE Elena is better than those two (also significantly less murderous past or present, lol), but stop reiterating it because then it makes the viewer feel like they're being manipulated into believing this, while they might still be thinking of her non-reaction to Andie's death or everything Damon and Stefan have ever done. Second, don't indulge in the x-is-better-than-y debates because then you're kind of throwing your basic premise of perception and inherent humanity right out the window. It puts Stefan in a bad light and also just makes you think 'you have no moral ground here, Stefan' which is true, but we already KNOW this is true. For the lack of a better word, it was just petty :s

ALSO KEEP CAROLINE OUT OF THE TORTURE BUSINESS KTHX. And too many people getting tortured too fast. AFTER A WHILE, I SHALL BE SENSITIZED TO THIS.

True on the Bechdel though! I'm being so hard on TVD because I expect so much from it. And I definitely was expecting the D/E conversation, but it just seemed rather dominant which I can technically understand, but I would love it if they occasionally just talked about them. ALSO DO THEY KNOW ABOUT CARO'S DIAMOND BRACELET AND EVERYTHING? OMG I WANT TO KNOW.

Awww, thank youuu <3



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Florencia: DE (We Always Survive)florencia7 on January 22nd, 2012 06:00 pm (UTC)
YAY!!!!!!!!! I nearly hugged my computer when I saw this post!!!!! I WANTED TO READ YOUR THOUGHTS on the latest developments SO MUCH!!!! ♥

I was spoiled about Elijah too :[ Although, to be honest, his appearance was long overdue so it wouldn't have been much more shocking anyway haha

I really liked Bonnie in this episode. She was just such a proper best teenage friend, only asking if the kiss was good – no scolding/judging whatsoever lol

I find it hilarious that Elena and Alaric are still living together even with the only excuse Jeremy gone. Mystic Falls must have one of the most awesome school boards out there ;D

Klefan hehe I love how so over crazy!Stefan Klaus is. Like, Stefan dude, come up with something new already. All Stefan & Klaus, as well as Damon & Klaus scenes are so great. The three of them would make such cute Salvatore triplets lol

I was really shaking my head at Stefan's “you're better than him line” because I was confused as to what did he actually mean by that?? What was he referring to, exactly?? But today it dawned on me! I ~think~ Stefan was just commenting on the fact that Elena told him about the kiss. That makes her “better” than Damon who didn't tell Stefan anything (OK, Stefan could have gotten a hint after seeing Damon dancing his way out of the shower but let's pretend Stefan is too sweet a guy to draw such dirty conclusions). As for “you're better than both of us” - this may refer to Stefan keeping his, um, dealings with Katherine from Damon back in 1864, maybe?

Seriously. Multiple Tyler-is-turning scenes AGAIN?? Somebody should have given the writer of this episodes heads up & tell him we have already seen that lol

I'm trying to stay excited for 3x14 but after reading the ep. description I'm sort of scared: “dashed hopes” & Damon finding a “new way to cope”? This can't be good, can it :[ I guess I will just focus on Caroline & Klaus dancing ♥ ;)

Your icons are FANTASTIC!!! I love your categories & your use of colors is breathtaking. Magical. Beautiful work!! :)
youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 27th, 2012 07:30 pm (UTC)
HAHA, I'M SO SORRY MY THOUGHTS ARE SO MEDIOCRE THEN. I'm not even trying to be insightful /sigh

And I couldn't have guessed at the level of bamfness of Elijah's appearance so that turned out all right ^^

I found it hilarious that Bonnie was totally all over Damon's kissing abilities-- like LOLOLOL WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN? But actually I'm wrong, that was a good bonding moment as well, very teenage girl :D

ALARIC/ELENA IS JUST PAST ALL APPEARANCE OF PROPRIETY BY NOW. Honestly, they're all so casual about it, and now he's bringing girls over. I'm wondering what she's going to think. (Probably nothing, it's Mystic Falls after all, hee). But I wonder if the show's noticed that it's not exactly...appropriate? I HOPE NOT. I WANT ALL THE ALARIC/ELENA SCENES /no regrets

All Stefan & Klaus, as well as Damon & Klaus scenes are so great. The three of them would make such cute Salvatore triplets lol

SALVATORE TRIPLETS LOLOLOLOL <33

I think your thoughts on the kiss are completely different from anything I've heard yet and extremely interesting! That's an angle that I haven't thought of! I think Stefan, oddly (or maybe understandably) enough felt betrayed, not so much by Elena/Damon, but by the fact that Elena/Damon happened without him. Two people he loves more than anything else sort of getting together and he may never get their love again. I do wonder what angle they're taking on this really!

THE TORTURE SCENES ARE REDUNDANT, STOP WITH THEM ALREADY, SHOW.

Lmao, Damon's "new way to cope" will probably not be good for anyone involved. I think I know what it is, been spoiled a little :D BUT KLAUS AND CAROLINE DANCE (how it it even happening, there better be a good explanation!!) I CANNOT EVEN WAIT AT ALL.

Ooh, thank you so much! I've developed an excessive love for color and can never tell if it works or not!
gemmacranmers on January 22nd, 2012 06:28 pm (UTC)


ELIJAH IS BACK

Everybody is a happy bunny! :)

Other stuff:

MEHHHHHHH

- Bonnie rocked it.

- I liked the one, singular D/E scene mucho - they should have more of those

- S/E gave me all the feels because of their long, sad looks but I really didn't get Stefan's reaction. He should have just laughed her to scorn. He's meant to be bad, I mean, COME ON.

- OF COURSE IT WAS REBEKAH'S COFFIN. If anyone dares suggest that it wasn't... But yeah - Elijah is back with his bro now. They have so much chemistry, those two. PLUS THEY HAVE THIS AWESOME RELATIONSHIP WHERE ON THE DAY AFTER ELIJAH TRIES TO KILL KLAUS HE PICKS OUT SOME CLOTHES FOR HIM AND THEN DRESSES HIM <3 He will probably make him breakfast next eppie :D Those are things I look forward to (I am weird, yes).

- Damon knew he had it coming, regardless of wether it was justified or not (it wasn't, IMO). But yeah, he was ~prepared~

Stefan Salvatore who stans Damon like it’s his job?

Agreed. I think Stefan was anomalously written this ep. That is all. Although I do think Damon's character faced a certain amount of battering in late S1 and S2.

I can understand the silences when he realizes how much he’s lost, but I genuinely cannot understand “maybe the bridge thing was going too far”. YOU THINK?

I completely agree. NO SENSE WAS MADE. NO SENSE! I don't care if he was so upset he cried himself to sleep, that would have been more believeable than what we got. THIS IS WHAT HE WANTED. And yes, it's going to hurt him badly but no, it's not going to result in Damon bashing or trying to make up with Elena. UGHHHHH.

I agree with your Caroline feelings entirely :(

Lovely batch! I will snag a few for when I get my paid account and have an icon overhaul :)
youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 27th, 2012 07:41 pm (UTC)


FISTPUMP.

- The D/E scene was goood, that's exactly my view of their relationship, hee.

- YES TO THE STEFAN SCENE. I loved it on an objective level, but it seemed really WHERE WHAT to me D:

- WHAT? YOU MEAN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ONLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE KLAUS/ELIJAH STUFF? Mad bro. They have no right to an opinion on this blog anymore /nazi. Once Rebekah wakes up (and all the others of course), IT'LL BE LIKE A HUGE ORIGINALCESTATHON what, that's a word. These gqmf's really believe in #keepingitinthefamily.

- Damon definitely has a guilt complex a mile wide (not that it actually stop him from, y'know, anything) and I think at some level HE felt he deserved it, whether the audience did or not.

- Threatening to kill Elena on the bridge off which her parents died and then going like 'hey, went too far, yeah', LIKE, WHAT EVEN WAS THAT? DID YOU NOT WANT THIS? WHY SO BIPOLAR? And I can't imagine he'd give up everything he's been trying to pretend and go all 'no I want to get back together' or anything D:

Thank you so much, I'm glad you liked them :D
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youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 25th, 2012 06:48 pm (UTC)
That's absolutely lovely of you to say (or even bother saying since it's not even your fandom!) I have a thing for bright colors, while most of the artistic icons I see around have very different coloring, so I'm never very sure if it's working-- glad it did for you :D
sassy, classy, and a bit smart-assy: TVD: Rebekah prairie hairbadboy_fangirl on January 22nd, 2012 07:54 pm (UTC)
I love that you made an icon of Rebekah with her "prairie hair." I was just rewatching "Ordinary People" the other night and was caught up in that two-second scene because of how gorgeous her hair looks, and NOW I HAS AN ICON OF IT! Yay! *gives you gold stars*

I like your thoughts about Stefan--and him not being the same character in a lot of ways, because now that I ponder that a little bit, it actually works for me. It's not even so much that he's "regressed" in his opinions about Damon, though definitely his opinion this week seemed more S1 that S2 (minus that whole taunting Damon with the fact that Elena would never respect him), but the idea that in some ways this is a WHOLE NEW STEFAN makes sense to me. Somewhere, ages ago I read someone's take on the idea that whatever age you are when you turn into a vampire, you sort of never really move on from that age, and Stefan having been 17 at the time makes him perpetually teenagerish in some of his behaviors. I think about who I was at that age, and how I acted, and how many of the things I thought, said, and did are not things I would think, say, and do now -- and it's like he's trying to figure out who he is, with the added burden of trying to "not let it all back in" -- meaning his emotions because he doesn't want to deal with what he is when he's at his worst, and he doesn't have Lexi there to beat it out of him.

On the other hand, I don't really like the way this episode writer tends to writes Damon's relationships with others, so the search for meaning in this part of the storyline could be a fruitless effort as well.

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youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 28th, 2012 05:44 pm (UTC)
OKAY, I'M SO GLAD YOU CHOSE THAT ONE. The coloring part of it was kind of tough because it was really dull and colorless initially and I really didn't know what to do because the picture was so beautiful, I wanted to icon it. So it makes me happy, the final attempt worked for you :D Thanks so much!!

Somewhere, ages ago I read someone's take on the idea that whatever age you are when you turn into a vampire, you sort of never really move on from that age, and Stefan having been 17 at the time makes him perpetually teenagerish in some of his behaviors. I think about who I was at that age, and how I acted, and how many of the things I thought, said, and did are not things I would think, say, and do now -- and it's like he's trying to figure out who he is, with the added burden of trying to "not let it all back in" -- meaning his emotions because he doesn't want to deal with what he is when he's at his worst, and he doesn't have Lexi there to beat it out of him.

I kind of posted the entire thing BECAUSE THAT'S A WONDERFUL DECONSTRUCTION RIGHT THERE. I thought the scene was a bit abrupt, although I CAN imagine Stefan feeling that way, I just didn't think he'd say it. But the idea that Stefan can still be a bratty teenager and is distraught at the fact that he may just have lost the two people he loved the most- GUH, THAT'S ADORABLE, and that really appeals to me. I always like the brats. Bratty!Bitchy!!Elena is my favorite. And I love that he has to find his own way here, with no one imposing their will on him, or trying to torture the 'evil' out of him. It makes the journey so interesting!

On the other hand, I don't really like the way this episode writer tends to writes Damon's relationships with others, so the search for meaning in this part of the storyline could be a fruitless effort as well.

Ooh, I know what you mean! I really liked Alaric/Damon this episode, but I thought the Stefan/Damon was slightly odd and it just ran counterintuitive to everything that the show's been trying so hard to project since 3x08 (or even before, really).
conflicted_mind: Caroline/Elenaconflicted_mind on January 22nd, 2012 08:52 pm (UTC)
these are beautiful, hun. snagged the klaus/caroline and caroline/rebekah ones...and all the caroline ones, lolz. will credit!
youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 25th, 2012 06:53 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much! I'm really glad you found something :D I love iconing Caroline, so freaking gorgeous my girl is!
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youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 28th, 2012 05:53 pm (UTC)
I read some where that this episode was written by the same person as Disturbing Behavior aka the last time Bill Forbes came to town and caused all the Caroline vs. Damon debates, because the writing just wasn't strong enough. This I think was the case of this episode as well.

Yeah, I've been hearing that around a lot as well recently! Honestly speaking, I've never really paid any attention to the writers, although lots of people usually do and judge episodes accordingly. But this time I'll definitely have to agree because I can see why the characterization would be considered off those times. And also because this writer seems to precipitate issues and being them to a head insanely fast, which leaves you thinking 'whoa, DID I MISS AN EPISODE SOMEWHERE?!'

I thought he was stroking one of his three coffin siblings (and in my mind Elijah)

Hahaha, DEFINITELY REBEKAH, I BET THOUGH, BOY CONSTANTLY HAS HIS INCEST ON.

I can't shake the feeling the only real reason Klaus is willing to negotiate instead of rip Stefan limb from limb as well as his co-conspirators and then go and search for his coffins, because Klaus <3's Stefan enough to try and do things the non-permanant death way.

YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH AND THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

Klaus/Damon, power of wills, and Damon's response to Klaus's violent death threats...was a sort of flirty face(I swear Damon loves attention as much as Klaus). I'm a delusional shipper, I know.

...only if by 'delusional' you mean 'ACCURATE'. I mean seriously, the flirty vibe is off the charts, there is absolutely no missing it. And if they're not deliberately playing it that way then Freud would probably have something to say about that, hee.

Yes Klaus could desperately use somebody and in the completely non-romantic way he kinda already using Elena for her blood.

HAHAHA, THIS MADE ME LOL SO HARD. 'Use somebody' as a human bloodbag. EPIC INTERPRETATION, THAT.

And thank you so much for the extensive icon feedback, that's just really very nice of you. I spend way too much time on this stuff, lol
Theresatheresadawn on January 22nd, 2012 09:21 pm (UTC)
Lovely icons!
youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 25th, 2012 06:54 pm (UTC)
Thank you! :D
advoadvo on January 22nd, 2012 11:09 pm (UTC)
THE ORIGINAL BAMF IS BACK, ON YOUR KNEES EVERYONE. Dude, the first thing he did was pull out random-hybrid-heart. HOW SO FLAWLESS?

title or description

Finally, FINALLY, HE'S BACK! I was honestly starting to think it was never going to happen! Now, can we finally reunite Rebekah with all her hot brothers and take bets on whom she has most inappropriate chemistry with?

Let's celebrate the return of Mr. Flawless with a song



That was Rebekah’s coffin Klaus was stroking? Of course it was.

LMAO. Do you even need to ask?!


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youcallitwinter: it's no more than a dream remembered.youcallitwinter on January 25th, 2012 07:45 pm (UTC)
Hee, I've been reading so many of these 'fandom secrets' things, but ACCURATE. ALL FANGIRLING AND SQUEEING AND CAPSLOCKING AND GIF-ING IS TOTALLY RELEVANT.



BAMF. BAMF.

Now, can we finally reunite Rebekah with all her hot brothers and take bets on whom she has most inappropriate chemistry with?

Show, if this does not happen asap, I shall have to re-evaluate our relationship. And it's the Original Family, that's like practically a tagline for incestuous shenanigans /nods

I COULD NOT STOP WATCHING THAT VIDEO, LOLOLOL, AND IT LED ME TO:




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